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FBI raids DOJ attorney's home in search for warrantless wiretap

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posted on Aug, 6 2007 @ 07:26 AM
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The controversy over President Bush's warrantless surveillance program took another surprise turn last week when a team of FBI agents, armed with a classified search warrant, raided the suburban Washington home of a former Justice Department lawyer. The lawyer, Thomas M. Tamm, previously worked in Justice's Office of Intelligence Policy and Review (OIPR)—the supersecret unit that oversees surveillance of terrorist and espionage targets.


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Classified search warrant? OK so we have a former justice department lawyer who they 'suspect' may have been the individual responsible or leaking Bush's warrantless surveillance agenda. Are classified search warrants a common course of action? If so, then why not just classify ALL warrants then nobody can question the intent or authority. Bush continues to rape the freedoms of individuals on an unprecedented level. All we need now are jackboots. I applaud those who expose current and past governments for their shady and despicable tactics, fronted with the notion that its all for the better.

How can it be argued when nobody, except those in high authority, knows the true details and can exercise absolute power.


brill

[edit on 6-8-2007 by brill]




posted on Aug, 6 2007 @ 08:20 AM
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Interesting that this man was targeted, this can only prove the desperate attempt of Gonzales and the Bush administration silencing possible witness if the congress keep pushing the issue against Gonzales.

It will be interesting to see what happen next, if we get to find out at all.



posted on Aug, 6 2007 @ 09:34 AM
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I don't think the government is in "lock step" here.

I think the FBI and others are a little pissed at the Bush admin and their utter disregard for the law.

For a long time the FBI has been getting raked over the coals about following the law and all that stuff. Now the Bush admin says it's a freaking free for all, that's probably been pissing off some proper law enforcement types for a while now.

A lot of these guys have been trying hard to follow the letter of the law their entire careers so to see BushCo armatures come in and reign supreme probably really gets under their skin.

In the end it could be an internal power struggle that saves "we the people" from the horrors of Bush.

Just think, if it weren't for this internal struggle we'd have invaded Iraq a lot earlier, invaded Iran and Pakistan already and god knows what else !

Thanks to all the good law enforcement officers ! Keeping us safe from domestic dictators !

Sometimes the FBI really works against us common folk, other times they go to bat for us



posted on Aug, 6 2007 @ 09:59 AM
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This is great. I know it's not directly related to this subject, but I was discussing this in another thread. It is somewhat related, being that the subject worked for the Justice's Office of Intelligence Policy and Review (OIPR), who would actually be using these new laws that state:

Spy Laws Article

The laws would "allow the NSA warrantless access to virtually all international communications of Americans with anyone outside the US, so long as the Government declared that the surveillance was directed at people, which includes foreigners and citizens, reasonably believed to be located outside the US."


Note that it doesn't state that they must PROVE they're outside the United State. Just thought to be outside our borders. So, actually they can just say, "Well, we had reason to believe ... but, now we know we had bad information. Oh well."

I'm just glad that the people who're making and using these laws are feeling the heat from them.

Granted this wasn't related to terrorism and it wasn't a "warrantless" raid, but somehow I feel there's a connection with the invasion of privacy and the peole that are allowing these unconstitutional laws to pass.

Oh, the irony! This whole mess was aboout a leak, yet:

But two legal sources who asked not to be identified talking about an ongoing case told NEWSWEEK the raid was related to a Justice criminal probe into who leaked details of the warrantless eavesdropping program to the news media.


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posted on Aug, 6 2007 @ 12:36 PM
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I am glad that the man spoke and gave the warning of what is happening behind our backs with the invasion surveillance against American citizens.

But when he was targeted for releasing information he most be silenced, the only way to gag him is to make him a target of investigation.



posted on Aug, 6 2007 @ 01:53 PM
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As with the case against Tom DeLay(money laundering), many Federal lawyers are getting nervous about their livelihood because holding a federal position doesn't exempt you from your home state laws or bar assoc. ethics board. The rats are leaving the sinking ship. If there's a change in party in the executive branch of the Fed. gov't., many of the states that the illegal and warrentless searches actually took place take a very dim view of such actions.

Tom DeLay thought he could use his political muscle to get the state charges against him dropped but he knows he's cooked if he goes to trial. The judge in his case may be a fellow Republican but DeLay was arrogant and sloppy and that ticked off a lot of folks down here in Texas. If you're going to be a crook, at least do it with some style and class.



posted on Aug, 6 2007 @ 02:22 PM
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For THIS guy they can get a "secret" warrant!

But as far as the rest of us are concerned, our rights just aren't important enough!

Disgusting!



posted on Aug, 6 2007 @ 06:27 PM
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Spy Laws Article

The laws would "allow the NSA warrantless access to virtually all international communications of Americans with anyone outside the US, so long as the Government declared that the surveillance was directed at people, which includes foreigners and citizens, reasonably believed to be located outside the US."


Well at least i know the work around. i'll connect myself to the service in US while outside in China then use VOIP on the same line. it would be as if im making a call from the US. problem solved an no need to worry about them listening to my calls.



posted on Aug, 6 2007 @ 08:16 PM
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It's either, as discomfit suggests, proper law enforcement types pissed off at the Administration about being raked over the coals, or, it's evidence that our secret courts are not able to operate free of unchecked executive influence.

There's really no reason to wonder why Alberto Gonzales still has his job. In this case, the FBI could be acting as the Administration's brownshirts. The fascists thrive on this ambiguity: it's how they're erasing history.

Is Bush fanatical, or is he tranquil and fatalistic? There's a world of difference between these two poles, and both are reasonable explanations for his behavior.

What does Bush mean when he speaks? How do we record history when the words we use to describe it are nonsense?

This is beyond a matter of a few civil liberties. This is state socialism for corporations and the fascist sheepherding of individuals. Boycott the two-party system in 2008. Vote for yourself, it's the only way to be sure you're not voting for a fascist!



posted on Aug, 6 2007 @ 08:22 PM
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This is nothing. The democratic congress is now nullifying votes that did not go their way. The new tactic is to simply expunge the vote results from the record. I'd say this makes Bush look like an amateur when it comes to jack boot tactics. Meet your new supreme leader, Nancy Pelosi. Just don't try to cross her and you will be OK.





Late Thursday, the Republicans moved from unhappy to irate when a Democratic presiding officer ruled that their motion to shelve the agriculture bill had been defeated, even though as the gavel fell the electronic scoreboard in the chamber blinked a tally of 215 votes for the motion and 213 against it.

The GOP motion that touched off the furor would in effect have amended the spending bill (HR 3161) to bar use of funds to employ or provide housing for illegal immigrants. Instead, Democrats plowed ahead, eventually passing the bill by 237-18 on a roll call boycotted by most Republicans.


public.cq.com...



posted on Aug, 7 2007 @ 12:40 PM
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Star Chamber court.

Yes anything can be classified and it doesn't take much to observe laws that don't exsist or ignore ones in place. This has been going on for a while now just more is in the public now than before.



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