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Is it Christian to explore space?

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posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 06:01 PM
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My brother is a born-again christian and he is an extreme believer and converter. He also backs Bush all the way because he is a "Christian" so therefore everything is right. No matter what our president has done he says it's right because, "He's a christian."

My thoughts now though are with Bush's new space announcement about building on the moon and sending a manned spacecraft to Mars. Would God like it if we go out of his domain and left the earth in which he created for us? It just doesn't seem logical and I couldn't see and christian's backing these proposals.




posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 06:07 PM
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Of course it's not xian! They used to burn people just for looking at the stars.



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 06:08 PM
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absolutely it is christian, because God, in my eyes, is the same creator of the entire universe. This planet and its companions the Sun, the Moon, Saturn, etc are not the end of his creation but only a good example of it.

furthermore, the bible goes on to say that what God puts here in this existence is for man to enjoy (like in the last few verses of Genesis). To deny ourselves of space would, in effect, be denying ourselves of more pieces of that creation.

however... (here comes the balancing act)
I have to honestly question the deity worshipped in conventional religions such as Christianity. As I was cultivated through Catholicism, a lot of the writings and interpretations seemed biased and inconsistent to me as I read them, such as the parts about a vengeful god and especially the parts about making sacrifices. That to me sounds more like JahBulOn or Satan, who is not my God.



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 06:14 PM
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God didn't just create the earth, he created the universe. So I can't imagine He would tell us to stay here, on earth.

I'm a christian (obviously



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 06:14 PM
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I think it was always frowned upon to question anything. Being curious is a threat to the church--Eventually, people will question creation and god, if they question the size of the universe. This would be the natural succession, Yes?
Even worse, what if through the process of question and problems solving, the unthinkable occurres: proof against there bible interperetation of creation .



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 06:22 PM
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I dont think it is christian to explore anything but themselve.Remember what happened to adam and eve with the fruit of knowledge.Christians arent supposed to explore,just serve.
It is a good thing though that the church isnt in charge of space exploration,anything that was found would just be hidden in the bowels of the church anyways.
Yes,pun intended. there is a fascination with bowels in the church.
Ha,Ha



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 06:27 PM
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It's kind of interesting. The non-christians all say it's not, but those who are christian, who have knowlege of the book they follow, are saying it is.



I think it was always frowned upon to question anything. Being curious is a threat to the church--Eventually, people will question creation and god, if they question the size of the universe. This would be the natural succession, Yes?


I'm a bit of an explorer myself, but I explore knowlege, not time-space. And let me tell you, with every bit of knowlege I fill my brain with, it just reaffirms and strengthens my faith in God.



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 06:29 PM
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Last I looked, the church liked you to blindly follow, ask no questions, and hand over the money...I hope things have changed since I left the faith



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by xxKristinexx
Last I looked, the church liked you to blindly follow, ask no questions, and hand over the money...I hope things have changed since I left the faith


Maybe the Catholic church, but I don't follow Catholic doctrine. I follow the Bible. I follow God. I have never been a Catholic or been raised a Catholic, so I don't know what it says is "law". I believe Jesus when he says your sins will be made known to you. He doesn't say "The church will mandate which things you do are sins, not Me, not the Holy Spirit, not my Father."



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 06:43 PM
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That is the problem with you folk.When you look for knowledge you never truly find it because you cant understand it. God is always given the credit. When man slows down the speed of light 'its isnt god great'. When man discovers that light is bent by gravity its'isnt god great'.When man builds a building its 'isnt god great'.Cars,planes,dams,language,writing,fire,anything.Its pathetic.
How come when a mass murderer kills its not 'isnt god great'. How come when your father rapes your sister its not 'isnt god great'. How come the atom bomb "isnt god great',how come when a priest sodomizes a young boy its not 'isnt god great'...The list goes on forever.You can never be a christian and be considered knowledgable about things because you dont understand the true value,your thinking has a road block in it called god.
You are only allowed to think so far and then 'its isnt god great'



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 07:53 PM
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From samfashow>

Would God like it if we go out of his domain and left the earth in which he created for us? It just doesn't seem logical and I couldn't see and christian's backing these proposals.

This sounds like another ridiculous argument that was made
years ago, by someone in regard to the invention of flying
machines.
Basically when discussing the possibility of man being able
to fly, this simpleton said " If god intended man to fly he
would have given him wings."

If god intended man to be able to dive under water and
breathe then we would have been given gills like the fish.
What's the point of having scuba gear right?

This is just one more argument against having to believe
in god or religion.
Because it makes one feebleminded or stupid.
Not to mention that it might retard one's critical abilities.

Too much religion makes the mind turn to mush.



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 08:09 PM
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I'm not a Christian, but hell, explore space if you like. I have found nowhere in the Bible where it explains it to be immoral to explore God's creation.

If it's against Christianity to explore space, is it also against Christianity to believe that aliens exist?



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 08:17 PM
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dude....it's christian to not explore anything.......damn church



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by junglejake
God didn't just create the earth, he created the universe. So I can't imagine He would tell us to stay here, on earth.



I cant say it any better.


Very very nicely said.

Out,
Russian



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 09:14 PM
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Well, really, all of the Universe is God's domain. So, we are already on it, Earth. Exploring space is not anti-Christian..never says so in the Bible, no one was killed for looking at the stars, believe me. I believe we are fully meant to explore the stars eventually, and this space program is a great step
However, backing Bush on everything just because of his religious background is insane, I am sorry to say, at the least. Pity your brother for that, unfortunately.

-wD



posted on Jan, 13 2004 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by WeBDeviL
Well, really, all of the Universe is God's domain.


I bet there's some aliens out there who disagree with that assertion.



posted on Jan, 14 2004 @ 01:58 AM
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Followers never lead. They only follow.



posted on Jan, 14 2004 @ 03:13 AM
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Dose'nt matter how much money and how many record's are broken, with Bush's revampment of the space program he (Bush) will still not find God or his approval.

But it might give the conspricy theorist's some more topic's for disccussion. Did america make it to the moon?

As to weather it is christian or not. I n my mind at least it does'nt really matter. Any search for the creator begin within yourself. You must find him there first before you see him at work in everything else.

If you had the ability to fly a rocket to the edge of the universe you still would not find God.



posted on Jan, 14 2004 @ 06:28 AM
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Being viewed from a Christian perpective: no, I don't believe God would want space explored. As previously stated, there is too much information out there to disprove him( thank god I'm not xtian).

The nature based religions though,(wicca,asatru, shamanism, etc.) would have no problem with space exploration.

To qoute from that timeless classic, "The Craft":

' Imagine a football game between God and the Devil. Nature would be like the stadium in which they are playing'.

In laymans terms: nature is that much more bigger than god, or the devil.



posted on Jan, 14 2004 @ 10:39 AM
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Oh people, people, people! All of you attacking faith are going after the Catholic church of the middle ages!

yogibear, I believe if you read the first post, this question comes from a non-believer. If you read through this, all of the non-believers have been saying it's against christianity to explore space, and all of the believers (Russian, WebDevil, myself) are saying there's nothing wrong with it.

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posted on 1-14-2004 at 12:28 AM
Being viewed from a Christian perpective: no, I don't believe God would want space explored. As previously stated, there is too much information out there to disprove him( thank god I'm not xtian).

The nature based religions though,(wicca,asatru, shamanism, etc.) would have no problem with space exploration.

To qoute from that timeless classic, "The Craft":

' Imagine a football game between God and the Devil. Nature would be like the stadium in which they are playing'.

In laymans terms: nature is that much more bigger than god, or the devil.


Maddas

posted on 1-13-2004 at 09:13 PM
Dose'nt matter how much money and how many record's are broken, with Bush's revampment of the space program he (Bush) will still not find God or his approval.

But it might give the conspricy theorist's some more topic's for disccussion. Did america make it to the moon?

As to weather it is christian or not. I n my mind at least it does'nt really matter. Any search for the creator begin within yourself. You must find him there first before you see him at work in everything else.

If you had the ability to fly a rocket to the edge of the universe you still would not find God.


Satyr

posted on 1-13-2004 at 07:58 PM
Followers never lead. They only follow.



Flinx

posted on 1-13-2004 at 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by WeBDeviL
Well, really, all of the Universe is God's domain.
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I bet there's some aliens out there who disagree with that assertion.



WeBDeviL

posted on 1-13-2004 at 03:14 PM
Well, really, all of the Universe is God's domain. So, we are already on it, Earth. Exploring space is not anti-Christian..never says so in the Bible, no one was killed for looking at the stars, believe me. I believe we are fully meant to explore the stars eventually, and this space program is a great step
However, backing Bush on everything just because of his religious background is insane, I am sorry to say, at the least. Pity your brother for that, unfortunately.

-wD


Russian

posted on 1-13-2004 at 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by junglejake
God didn't just create the earth, he created the universe. So I can't imagine He would tell us to stay here, on earth.


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I cant say it any better.


Very very nicely said.

Out,
Russian


silQ

posted on 1-13-2004 at 02:17 PM
dude....it's christian to not explore anything.......damn church


LOBO

posted on 1-13-2004 at 02:09 PM
I'm not a Christian, but hell, explore space if you like. I have found nowhere in the Bible where it explains it to be immoral to explore God's creation.

If it's against Christianity to explore space, is it also against Christianity to believe that aliens exist?


yogibear

posted on 1-13-2004 at 01:53 PM
From samfashow>

Would God like it if we go out of his domain and left the earth in which he created for us? It just doesn't seem logical and I couldn't see and christian's backing these proposals.

This sounds like another ridiculous argument that was made
years ago, by someone in regard to the invention of flying
machines.
Basically when discussing the possibility of man being able
to fly, this simpleton said " If god intended man to fly he
would have given him wings."

If god intended man to be able to dive under water and
breathe then we would have been given gills like the fish.
What's the point of having scuba gear right?

This is just one more argument against having to believe
in god or religion.
Because it makes one feebleminded or stupid.
Not to mention that it might retard one's critical abilities.

Too much religion makes the mind turn to mush.


ashley, That's the problem with us folk? What's the problem? You just attacked a group of people as being ignorant hippocryts for me saying this?



Maybe the Catholic church, but I don't follow Catholic doctrine. I follow the Bible. I follow God. I have never been a Catholic or been raised a Catholic, so I don't know what it says is "law". I believe Jesus when he says your sins will be made known to you. He doesn't say "The church will mandate which things you do are sins, not Me, not the Holy Spirit, not my Father."


But you did make a good point, when taken out of context. God is great. Just because man has faults, and does wrong doesn't make Him any less great. A priest sodomises a boy. Isn't God great? Yes he is. And if that priest followed what God told him to do, that priest never would have done what he did. He went astray.



When man slows down the speed of light 'its isnt god great'. When man discovers that light is bent by gravity its'isnt god great'.


huh? Do you understand what you're talking about? Man has been able to slow down light (not C, the constant for light traviling through a vaccum without any gravitational effects on it) for millenia. Have you ever seen a prism? That little bugger right there is slowing down light. Have you ever seen you skin? That right there is actually STOPPING light, and reflecting other light waves, giving it it's color. The fact that man has been able to stop a photon using magnetic forces is incredible, and I'm extreamly fascinated by it. Light being bent by gravity? Of course it is, light is made up of particles, therefore can be influenced by gravity and by magnetic forces.

I guess I just don't understand how this reasoning is supposed to refute God.




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