Dogs...good or bad idea?, page 5
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reply posted on 5-1-2008 @ 08:24 PM by 1ShotDeal
Ahh A topic very close to both my hearth and heart.
I currently share my life with 5 full blood wolves ( a breeding pair and 3 of thier offspring)
While i would not have originaly figured a dog/wolf into my life or survival plans, after having this bunch in my life for awhile, I couldn't imagine getting along without them.
I inherited this family of wolves when a freind of mine was killed in Afganistan. He aquired the parent male as a foundling while doing field work as a paleoanthropologist. The male was half timberwolf, and half arctic. After reading up on wolves, he felt it would be unfair to an animal that mates for life to condemn him to a life of bachlorhood, so he found a breeder and was able to procurea female that was also half timber and half arctic.
I was " Introduced " to the paira couple of years before my friend died, but even though they accepted me as a friend of thier alpha, I still had to make the male submit when they came to live with me. The pups have never been a problem since they were born knowing i was thier alpha.
The advantage to the wolves, aside form thier obvious physical atributes is thier loyalty to the pack and the den, so consequently they are loyal to me. They hunt as a unit, but will only attack or kill based on a sign from me.
While wolves are very vocal they rarely if ever bark, and when in hunt or defend mode, they are silent stalkers.
While they were raised some what civilized, my friend also raised them to be able to survive if they should ever have to in the wild.
They will hunt and kill in the field, but will not devour the kill until the alpha is present.
With thier heightened senses, thier courage and loyalty, I would have a hard time imagining a better squad to have by my side if/when things got dicey.
As an aside, I have talked to many breeders about wolf/dog hybred, and they all agree that hybreds are inherently dangerous. They have the nervousness of a dog, combined with the strength and instinct to kill of a wolf.


[edit on 5-1-2008 by 1ShotDeal]


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 05:15 PM by jskogfeldt
i believe the chinese have used chow chow's for at least 3000 years



reply posted on 23-4-2008 @ 01:44 AM by BlackOps719
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Those are two good looking guys you got there!!!


Both excellent breeds, but I am extremely partial to the GSD. I will own at least one German Shepherd until the day I die. Faithful to the end, and smarter than most people I know...lol. Good posts guys.


reply posted on 23-4-2008 @ 01:46 AM by BlackOps719
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Great videos!! Thanks for sharing.

As you know, it is not so easy to hide anything from a GSD. Great all around dogs.



reply posted on 25-4-2008 @ 02:10 AM by chise61
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Thanks for sharing the videos, i love the the cream cheese video, beautiful dogs! They look like they'd be a real help to you in a survival situation, especially since they're not fighting over the food.


reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 01:14 AM by Anonymous ATS
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Hi
I am interested in this topic of wolf/dog hybrids....I am trying to educate myself about them. Not from the standpoint of wanting one as a pet, but rather as a neighbor of someone who owns about 15 or so of them. He states they are Timber Wolf (98%) and I think 2% white shepherd (?).
He does not have fenced land but keeps them chained at all times except when he lets a couple "very tamed ones" off to run around once in a while (like the other day) and one of them came over for a "visit". It came to get a bone from our yard (I have 2 dogs whom I give bones to quite often.)
I have told him I don't want them around because I have a 4 year old daughter who plays in our yard and I don't want to have to think about his wolf/dog threatening or harming her.
My biggest concern is that we don't know the dogs and he assures me that my daughter is completely safe if it ever comes over in to our yard. He bets his life on the "fact" that his dog would NEVER harm a flea.
He says the horror stories that are heard about wolf/dog hybrids are from Grey Wolf not Timber Wolf and that his wolves are not at all unpredictable....
For any of you experienced with wolf hybrids, can you help educate me about this?
Thank you!
JF


reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 03:41 AM by chise61
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
[Hi
I am interested in this topic of wolf/dog hybrids....I am trying to educate myself about them. Not from the standpoint of wanting one as a pet, but rather as a neighbor of someone who owns about 15 or so of them. He states they are Timber Wolf (98%) and I think 2% white shepherd (?).
He does not have fenced land but keeps them chained at all times except when he lets a couple "very tamed ones" off to run around once in a while (like the other day) and one of them came over for a "visit". It came to get a bone from our yard (I have 2 dogs whom I give bones to quite often.)
I have told him I don't want them around because I have a 4 year old daughter who plays in our yard and I don't want to have to think about his wolf/dog threatening or harming her.
My biggest concern is that we don't know the dogs and he assures me that my daughter is completely safe if it ever comes over in to our yard. He bets his life on the "fact" that his dog would NEVER harm a flea.
He says the horror stories that are heard about wolf/dog hybrids are from Grey Wolf not Timber Wolf and that his wolves are not at all unpredictable....
For any of you experienced with wolf hybrids, can you help educate me about this?
Thank you!
JF]



I have no experience with wolf hybrid dogs, but i have experience with dogs. The problem with your nieghbor saying that he bets his life on it is that he's not, he's betting your daughters life on it. You may want to check and see if they have any ordinances in your area concerning these hybrids. They may have an ordinance stating that they must be fenced in, or kept in a pen. I would think that just because of the amount of dogs that he owns he should have a fenced in yard, is he breeding them?



If i was you i'd fence in my yard simply for the safety of your daughter and your dogs also. Dogs are pack animals, as are wolves. They have a hierarchy in thier pack. Your dogs may see your daughter as being above them in the pack order, but your nieghbors dogs won't regardless of wether they have wolf in them or not. If she wanders to close to thier territory they may attack her. If they come into your yard they may still attack her or your dogs,especially if they come over a couple at a time as they will be with their pack.


There is always a risk that a dog will attack, especially with young children who tend to run & scream in a high pitch while playing. The wolf part of your nieghbors dogs may see this behaviour of a child as the behaviour of prey, or as aggression and attack. A plain old dog may have the same reaction, depending on the dog.


I also don't believe that it's very a very good idea to keep a dog chained up at all times ( personally i would never chain a dog up,rather put up a fence, or pen where the can run), i seriously doubt that it's a good idea to do to a wolf.


It doesn't seem like your nieghbor is very responsible concerning his dogs, simply because you have asked him to keep his dogs out of your yard and he seems to be ignoring your wishes. While you are right to believe that it is his responsibilty to keep his dogs out of your yard, since he has no respect for your wishes it seems that you may have to be the responsible one and fence in your yard. Better for you to put up the fence than for your daughter to be harmed, or worse.
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