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reply posted on 6-8-2007 @ 04:36 PM by zerotime
I will kind of go off the chart here and pick a dog that no one is talking about but one that I have experience with - the Doberman Pinscher. If you own a couple of these dogs no one is going to mess with you.

These dogs are gentle, loving, super intelligent, super loyal, and have amazing physical abilities. They will protect property, children, and pretty much anything else you want.

I have a story about how great these dogs are at protecting your stuff. Friends of ours had one a long time ago before us. It was a great dog, very friendly and fun. Their house was out in the country and sometimes they would leave the house and not even shut the front door. Just leave the screen door closed and the dog inside the house. If we happened to go over while my friends were gone we could talk to the dog through the screen door and she would wage her tail and jump around excited to see us. BUT if we started to open up the screen door to come inside the dogs personality would change instantly. It was like she was letting us know, I like you and I'm glad you are here but the masters of the house are not home right now so you are not allowed inside.

I have owned a lot of different dogs. These are the most intelligent dogs I have ever seen. I can give my dogs just about any type of brain teaser challenge and they will figure it out, especially if there is a reward of food involved.

These dogs were so smart and tough that they fought with the US marines in WWII. They were called Marine Devildogs.
www.doberman.ws...


History

Dobermann was a tax collector who frequently traveled through many bandit-infested areas, and needed a protection dog to guard him in any situation that might arise. He set out to breed a new type of dog that, in his opinion, would be the perfect combination of strength, loyalty, intelligence, and ferocity.

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Temperament

Doberman Pinschers are, in general, a gentle, loyal, loving, and highly intelligent breed. Although there is variation in temperament, a typical pet Doberman attacks only if it believes that it, its property, or its family are in danger. According to the US Centers for Disease Control, the Doberman Pinscher is less frequently involved in attacks on humans resulting in fatalities than several other dog breeds such as pit bull-type dogs, German Shepherd Dogs, Rottweilers and Alaskan Malamutes.[7] Those familiar with the breed consider well-bred and properly socialized Doberman Pinschers to be excellent pets and companions, suitable for families with other dog breeds, excellent with young children, and even cats. The modern Doberman Pinscher is well known as a loyal and devoted family member.

The Doberman Pinscher has been used as a protection and guard dog, due to its intelligence, loyalty, and ability to physically challenge human aggressors. Doberman Pinschers were once commonly used in police work and in the military. The breed was used extensively by the U.S. Marines in World War II, and 25 Marine War Dogs died in the Battle of Guam in 1944: there is a memorial in Guam in honor of these Doberman Pinschers.[8] In these roles, they inspire fear. They are often stereotyped in such roles in movies (where they are trained to exhibit seemingly "aggressive" behavior), and video games, consequently many people are afraid of the breed. A related problem is the misunderstanding of their legitimate roles; because guard dogs are trained to neutralize unwelcome intruders, many people mistakenly believe that Doberman Pinschers are vicious.[9]

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reply posted on 6-8-2007 @ 08:11 PM by ExquisitExamplE
Originally posted by Yarcofin
You only really need to keep them alive to the point you are willing to kill "man's best friend", your family pet, and eat it. That could be somewhat emotional.




This question is rather climate specific. A husky would fare poorly in a high desert scenario. A greyhound would be useless in the freezing tundra. Reverse the scenarios though and Bingo. That was the name of the farmer's dog. B-I-N-G-O was his name-o.


reply posted on 6-8-2007 @ 08:12 PM by frozen_snowman
Another excellent choice would be a MAREMMA SHEEPDOG

Maremmas are self sufficient and are able to hunt for food (rabbits) - No need for extra food storage for the hungry pooch!

They are used here in Australia to protect sheep (+property) and doing a very good job .

The following is from Vladimir Peniakoff's book entitled Popski's Private Army:



One group of Italian soldiers and their Maremma sheepdog who had been captured by the Allies. Six German shepherds were left to guard the prisoners. In the morning, when the Allies came to check on their prisoners, they found that the Italians had escaped- leaving behind their Maremma. He was found lying quitely at the entrance to the pen and the six German shepherds were dead




From the Imperial War Museum of London come two stories. The first is about the British Army's Afrika Corps who found that the standard German shepherd dogs were useless at protecting their supply dumps from the Arabs. Once Italian settlers in Libya introduced Maremmas to the Corps their troubles were at an end. The second story is about Maremmas who were seconded into the British Army. They had been introduced to the the English when the Italians had joined the Allies. These dogs were able to sense the presence of German troops and had an ingenious way of letting their handlers know that the Germans were around. Instead of barking, a Maremma would nudge the handler with its nose. These dogs saved many lives!


I'm not sure how I can train my Maremma Bitch to nudge when strangers are around because she can be very noisy and this is not a wanted behavior in a survival situation.


reply posted on 6-8-2007 @ 09:08 PM by BlackOps719
Originally posted by HooHaa
The best dog I've owned and would recommend would be the mutt. Get a decent sized animal with an even temperament and you've got a winner. They are smart, loyal and protective. Due to inbreeding of the pedigree's the mutt has the most potential to be well rounded and intelligent of all the other breeds out there.

I guess it boils down to personal preference and the location you plan on being stranded in. In over all versatility the mutt is the way I'd have to go. I only hope I don't find myself in a position to have to find out for myself. BTW the German Shepard has the highest record of biting and turning on its owner. The mastiff has been in the news for killing a woman in an apartment building. I wouldn't feel comfortable having ether one of those breeds. The husky is another temperamental beast known to bite people. As far as hybrids, those scare the hell out of me. A friend of mine had one and it was ferocious along as being one of the biggest dam dogs ive ever seen.




Definately there is much to be said about the courage, the disposition and the loyalty of a plain old mutt. I have owned many dogs, and the one who was smartest and head and shoulders above all others was a Shep/Lab mix. The dog was intelligent beyond normal reasoning. He could sense my every mood, he could learn tricks and demands within minutes of being shown what to do. He was protective of our home but docile and loving with children. He had the heart of a clown and loved loved loved to play (especially frisbee)!! I doubt I could ever ask for a better companion animal whether in survival mode or not . Great dogs.



reply posted on 8-8-2007 @ 10:02 AM by thelibra
Well, I've currently got two dogs, one is a Border Collie, the other is a mutt that might be part Corgi.

The Border Collie is, IMHO, probably the perfect Situation X Dog. It's a work-dog, so it's been bred hundreds of years for WORK rathr than looks (hence why there's such a wide variation in their looks). This also tends to make for a healthier overall dog. They're one of the most intelligent breeds, have high-energy (but generally only bark to communicate), and double-coats, which can be a real asset in the wintertime. They're great at herding, hunting, guarding, are very loyal, gentle, and good with kids.

Our part-Corgi mutt is dumber than a sack of bricks, but extremely fast, and an extremely good bird-dog. She's actually managed to dart out the back door, run across our back yard, leap into the air, and catch birds before they take off. Yeah, she's that fast. But very....very dumb. She might opt, instead of the flock of tastybirds, to go after a butterfly, a waving fern branch, or perhaps a rock. She can't even make it through one round of fetch without forgetting what she was doing and getting distracted.

So, in Sit-X, we'd probably just eat the Corgi. Just kidding. Sorta. But I would entrust my family to the Border Collie if I could only choose one dog.

Oh, a side note about German Shepherds. Be very careful as they get older. Because of the inbreeding and breeding for agression, purebred German Shepherds will, often late in life, develop the canine equivolent of Alzheimer's, and attack their owners, thinking them a stranger. It's very sad. Several people I know had to put their GS's down once they hit around 11 or 12.
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