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Two "Middle Eastern" Men Pulled Over in SC with Explosives (Updated)

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posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 03:42 PM
"Middle Eastern Looking Men" is a euphemism for Israeli Mossad Agents, like those arrested trying to blow up the GWB on 9-11.

posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 03:51 PM
reply to post by sp00n1

Are you talking about this memory hole footage?

posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 05:00 PM

Originally posted by BO XIAN

I have found Michelle Malkin to be very valiant in terms of DENYING IGNORANCE; DENYING LIES; DENYING the NWO a free pass regarding it's BS.

The type of news and political organizations she works for are typically extreme right-wing organizations who preach racism, xenophobia, and white superiority. In countless articles written for them, Michelle typically bashes and encourages racism against Muslims, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and especially immigrants.

Thankfully, she's very much more interested in THE TRUTH wherever the chips may lie . . . than in PC hogwash.

Mr. Muller is Ward Professor, University of North Carolina School of Law. He is a member of the Historians' Committee for Fairness, an organization of scholars and professional researchers, which charges that Michelle Malkin's book, In Defense of Internment, represents "a blatant violation of professional standards of objectivity and fairness."Source:

She argues instead that the desert imprisonment of virtually all of the West Coast's Japanese-American men, women, and children for three years was the right thing to do. As the Presidential Commission on the Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians said in its 1981 report to Congress, "The broad historical causes which shaped [the decisions to relocate and detain Japanese Americans] were race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership." Source:

She's also not at all racist herself nor are the bulk of her patriotic conservative fans. She is rather ruthless about the truth. That offends a lot of sensibilities.

See, Malkin, a conservative columnist, blogger and Fox News contributor, has some affiliations of her own, skeletons like Named for Virginia Dare, the first white person born in the New World, the site has been named by the anti-racist Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group. And for good reason: the site is dedicated to pushing the kind of pseudo-science the Nazis could have only dreamed of using to support their racial fantasies. Malkin's ties to the site are legion: it regularly prints her column, while she employs one of its writers.

I will let the above statements speak for themselves in response to your drivel.

Bubba Bo Xian. It's times like these that I am reminded what Grandma Kurious used to say. "Some people, they just ain't right. That's why they don't let cousins marry."

I don't know what your "tooth to tatoo" ratio is, but I am not about to go tit-for-tat with someone who honestly believes that Ms. Malkin is not a racist. Strike up the theme song to Deliverance....I am outta here. Now squeeeeeeeeal.


[edit on 29-8-2007 by kinda kurious]

posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 06:59 PM
Bottom line is, if this were nothing, those boys would be home. Instead, they are in solitary confinement. I don't care what your background is, if these kids were white, black or greys they woud be treated the same way.

Something is wrong here, and the US knows it, and I would venture to say that it is part of a bigger investigation. Funny how this story has gotten so quiet.

posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 07:47 PM

Originally posted by esdad71
Bottom line is, if this were nothing, those boys would be home. Instead, they are in solitary confinement. I don't care what your background is, if these kids were white, black or greys they woud be treated the same way.

Something is wrong here, and the US knows it, and I would venture to say that it is part of a bigger investigation. Funny how this story has gotten so quiet.

Whats happened to all the other suspects thru the years? We have them on a daily basis it seems....where are the follow ups? Where are those SUSPECTS?????

posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 08:26 PM
How about the Olympic bomber? Remember how everyone accused the security guard and he really wa a hero. It was another man. They were accusing the man with no evidence in the first few days. In this case, you have a tight lipped FBI and a quiet media. You are not even hearing anything from CAIR right now which to me is another flag that they may be covering bases before shooting off at the mouth which is uncommon. I live in the area these guys are from and there is nothing new to report, like I said, which is odd for these types of cases at the moment.

posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 08:33 PM
reply to post by 11Bravo

YES!! Thats the one!!!

Gee, why did they get released without charges? What ever happened to all those other israelis that were arrested as part of spy rings before and after 9-11?

posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 08:40 PM

Those five guys were deported after a few months in solitary. They were thoroughly checked by the FBI and there were not terror links. There was a suspicion that the Urban moving company itself was a front for Isreali intel.

posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 08:52 PM
reply to post by esdad71

Cleared huh?
They werent 'cleared'. THeir release was arranged.
And there was more than one white van involved in suspicious or downright unlawful behavior that day.
Funny how their boss skipped town 5 days after 911.
Its all facts my friend. Open your eyes.
Why would an innocent man skip town and leave his thriving business in limbo?
THe State of Jersey had to open the doors to that 'innocent' moving company so my fellow citizens could retrieve their property.

posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 09:21 PM
What would two innocent men in their twenties be doing with pipe bombs and explosives in their trunk? On vacation? C'mon?

as far as the Urban mover guy, he is back in the states working in Fl, at of all places an aviation company. Also, I never said cleared, and I never denied that there could be a Mossad connection. I jsut find it funny that you defend these guys when those agents were stopped later that day at a job site. I mean, seems like 'anyone' who looked middle eastern was looked into.

At least 60 young Israeli Jews have been arrested and detained around the country on immigration charges since the Sept. 11 attacks, many of them held on U.S. government officials' invocation of national security.
The investigations of the Israelis working at malls is separate from another case of detained Israelis, in New York. On Sept. 11, five young Israeli army veterans who worked for a moving company were observed at a park on the Hudson River in New Jersey snapping photographs of the burning World Trade Center and seemingly clowning around. To complicate matters, when authorities arrested them they had box-cutters in their moving van, the types of weapons used by the terrorist hijackers. Two other Israelis working for the same firm were arrested later.

Officials found they all had overstayed their visas, and they were held in a federal jail in Brooklyn until this week, when they began to be returned to their homes in Israel.

So, I think there is a little one sided thinking on some peoples part.

[edit on 29-8-2007 by esdad71]

[edit on 29-8-2007 by esdad71]

posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 12:09 AM
So let's recap;

They were Mossad Agents.

They were arrested with vans full of explosives.

Similar teams were seen setting up cameras, in several locations, trained on the WTC before the attacks began. They were seen rejoicing, by numerous eyewitnesses, when the attacks succeeded.

They were released without charge.

[edit on 8/30/2007 by sp00n1]

posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 02:09 AM
dont forget this..

Two Israelis driving a moving van were arrested in Tennessee last Saturday after leading police on a high-speed chase, marking at least the third time since 9/11 that Israelis in moving vans suspected of espionage in the U.S. have been taken into custody.
and this..

Authorities in the United States have arrested and deported dozens of young Israelis since early last year who represented themselves as art students in efforts to gain access to sensitive federal office buildings and the homes of government employees, US officials said. A draft report from the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), which first characterized the activities as suspicious said the youths' actions "may well be an organized intelligence-gathering activity." Immigration officials deported them for visa violations; however no criminal espionage charges have been filed.

and this..

Two Israelis who were arrested on 15 April on suspicion of starting a fire on board a KLM Royal Dutch Airlines aircraft have been released without charge.
and this..

The leader of the two Israelis arrested after leading police on a high speed chase in a moving van last Saturday in rural Tennessee is the son of the spokesman for the Likud Party of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon...
News that one of the two Israeli 'movers' belonged to that country's political elite might have proven useful in the criminal investigation underway in rural North Carolina and Tennessee, where the two men led authorities on a high-speed chase in a rented moving van last weekend.

However, the investigation was halted Wednesday, after the men were released from Unicol County Jail to the custody of federal officials from the INS, where they face only a deportation hearing

this was before 911 but still interesting

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- An Israeli teen-ager accused of infiltrating the Pentagon computer system and others in Israel is "damn good ... and very dangerous," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Thursday.

this is the most interesting part.. read into it however you want

Asked by reporters what he thought about Tenebaum, Netanyahu smiled and answered "damn good." Then, after a brief hesitation he added, "and very dangerous."

i'll stop here

two men posing as press photographers, one of them a former Israeli Colonel and Mossad agent, were arrested INSIDE the Mexican congress on October 10, 2001 armed with
9-mm pistols, nine grenades, explosives, three detonators, and 58 bullets, but were released following intense pressure from the Israeli Embassy

i though this was a good read.


posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 09:31 AM
reply to post by turbokid

Wow, nice post turbokid. Hard facts and research. A refreshing reminder of why we are here. Definitely something more to all this. I too live in the area from where the two USF students are from. I am following this thread with much kuriosity.

Hat tip and a star from me. regards....kk

posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 10:05 AM
I guess I'm a little lost here.

Are you guys trying to say, (without actually saying it), that Mohamed and Megahed are really Mossad?

Is there any evidence of that other than the obscure "middle eastern men" phrase in the first couple of reports?

Like I said, you've lost me. Please connect the dots for me.

posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 12:51 AM
Um... I'm confused again. Help me out here.

These guys are in jail in South Carolina right? They have only had a bail hearing right?

So why does a Federal Grand Jury in Tampa Florida want Megahed's DNA all the sudden? Anybody have any Ideas?

Jury Wants DNA, Hair Samples In USF Case

Aug 30, 2007
TAMPA - A federal grand jury in Tampa is asking for DNA and hair samples from a University of South Florida student jailed four weeks ago in South Carolina on explosives charges, his attorney said.

Andrew Savage (Attorney for Megahed) said in a phone interview Wednesday night that he had no indication why the samples were being sought from his client, Youssef Megahed.

What is this USF case?

[edit on 8/31/07 by makeitso]

posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 01:16 AM
When I was a kid, everybody made explosives and pipe bombs. It was a regular activity in my Boy Scout Patrol. The Rebel Patrol. We cooked up some contact explosive once and painted it on the concrete hallway leading to the Troop meeting room. It was like capguns going off when everyone came in with their leather soled shoes setting it off. The presence of pipe bombs does not make one a terrorist. Explosions are fun and lots of folks will agree with me on that.

posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 01:38 AM
Look into CAIR, USF and the Center for Islamic Thinking in Tampa. Large Mulsim population with known terror ties/funding. I think it should be safe to say that there is no reason to think that they would request hair samples over fireworks or hobby model rocket engines now right?
The news came as the grand jury heard testimony Wednesday from people who have connections to Megahed and Ahmed Mohamed, another USF student arrested at the same time.

Federal court records show that Salhab leased the house in the early 1990s to World and Islam Studies Enterprise, a think tank run by Sami Al-Arian, the former USF professor accused of funding Palestinian terrorist organizations.

Elvington said she represented one of the Salhabs but did not specify which one. She formerly represented Ghassan Ballut, one of Al-Arian's co-defendants, on terrorism-related charges. Ballut was cleared after a trial in which jurors deadlocked on some charges against Al-Arian and acquitted him on others.

Also appearing before the grand jury Wednesday was Ahmed Bedier, who has been a spokesman for the Megahed family. Bedier is executive director of the Tampa chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations and a frequent media spokesman for Muslims and Islamic causes.

He was accompanied by attorney Lyann Goudie and appeared to be in the grand jury area for about an hour.

Bedier declined to answer questions about his testimony, saying he wanted to check with the national headquarters of CAIR about what he was allowed to say.

There is much more to this than is being reported. When CAIR refuses a statement, there is something wrong. Something very, very wrong.

posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 02:02 AM
I would have to agree that they would not request DNA over model rockets or fireworks. Especially since it is a Federal Grand Jury in Tampa, when their case is in S.C.

I think I get the basics though.

There was a Federal Grand Jury investigation already proceeding prior to these boys being arrested. Something terrorist related at USF.

Then something unknown to us about this USF case came up after the arrest, and search of their home/computers. Whatever that is prompted the Grand Jury to request their DNA, and have their friends and attorney testify in Tampa.

And the South Carolina case has yet to begin.

Oh, you know what? I just remembered posting that the S.C. police suspicions were first raised about the boys because of an investigation from another jurisdiction. Could that be the USF thing?

We are not being told something. Much more than firecrackers. WTF is going on?

[edit on 8/31/07 by makeitso]

posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 08:28 AM

Originally posted by esdad71
Look into CAIR, USF and the Center for Islamic Thinking in Tampa. Large Mulsim population with known terror ties/funding.

Actually if you REALLY look into it the aledged "known terrorist ties" of the Center of Islamic Thinking is one more of the bush administrations claims that start collapsing under closer scrutiny.

What it comes down to is whether they knew one of the groups they were giving money to had (or did not have) terrorist connections. It really is a classic he said/she said kind of thing. Hardly grounds for the big production the bushies made it into. Like so many others. People went down so it would look like bush minor was standing tall.

posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 09:07 AM
the two 'students' stopped in SC, with affiliations in Florida's Muslim/Islamic/ & possibly militant, Jihadist communities

Are More Valuable with their freedom of movement
than being arrested & incarcerated...

my guess is that US Intel is purposely unmeshing the wheels of justice
so they have unwitting 'assets' leading the Intel squads or teams to
the covert networks of extremist & zealot people in the 'terror networks'.

Sorta how the US Intel networks allowed the cadre of 9-11 pilots
a free rein, but which eventually backfired on the US Intel apparatus
as they were caught up in their own compiling of data & bureaucratic bungling.

same game plan, just different actors

[edit on 31-8-2007 by St Udio]

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