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New Evidence from CDR Rutdlege backs Alien ship story!

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posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 09:32 AM
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Hi Jerry

I saw your post on the nasaspaceflightforums. Ive been trying to get in-touch with you to talk about what you found. If you read this please contact me at darker_moon@hotmail.com

There is more to the launch pad video than you think. Sadly I didnt download the pad video in time. So I havent been able to take a look myself.

IF anyone has the launch pad vid then please get in contact with me using the address posted above.

Thanks
Richard




posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 11:06 PM
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I am gonna sit this one out. One would think a general media outlet would have commented on the superheroes petition drive . The powers that be could easily say ok..we will publicly acknowledge the unsung heroes, like the tomb of the unknown soldiers and not say a darn thing about the mission..even create a giant obilisk or something and we will still never know a dam thing.
Sys



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 04:04 PM
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I stop by the retiredafb youtube site every once in a while to see if anything has been added and I noticed a comment left by someone saying Rutledge was involved in a legal dispute over the videos with NASA and is why he's waiting till September to release.
Does this have any validity ? I've done a little digging but can't find anything on it and my curiosity has been peaked if it leads to be true.

b



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 09:10 PM
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I posted a reply on the billion year old thread so I thought I'd post on this one because its really the same thing. I have a website s206.photobucket.com... Here I posted a picture of the space ship, mining operations and a humanoid astride a sky vehicle of some type. I uncovered these photos by researching that very UTube video about Apollo 20. These photos are from Apollo 15 and 17. They were taken from 115-117 kilometers above the Lunar surface. I use microsoft picture and fax viewer to zoom in on them. You can right click with your mouse and save them to your computer and use your zoom software. They are marked with red arrows showing the locations of all the objects. I also included the trajectory Apollo chart where NASA or some cartographer actually tic marked the locations of the space ship and mining ops. It was left for me 36 years later to stumble upon it. There were 15 photos of the spaceship but AS15-P-9625 is the best resolution one.
To me, it doesn't matter whether the video is a Hoax or the Apollo 20 mission ever happened. The space ship is real along with Mining and Alien life as seen in these photos. I got the photos from researching the Apollo flights on the lunar space science website. If you have any questions or comments, I can be reached at wjhartnett@frontiernet.net. I hope you enjoy, Bill



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 11:57 PM
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......The link is gone. Page not found. Did you take it down? I`ve noticed this happening an awful lot lately to "interesting" information...



posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 12:15 AM
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Thanx for the linx and pix Space I know we will all go there and tha thing about a nasa dispute sounds interesting. Im surprised they would go after him if it was a fake..they usually just ignore when they are not denying

Sys



posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 12:19 AM
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Its gone just like you said DEM..well they can always u2u us when the have another one and we can keep it on our pcs

SyS


Here is a link to that pic number he left on his post

15 625

Lunars societ photos these are good

These are unedited..there really is something that doesnt belong there

That doest look like a lava plume to me that form when they are under water. its conical at both ends like when somebody rolls up a cigarette you have to pan all the way to the right..Its clear as day..no blur. Nice

I would love to see the pix of the alien chic he had talked about..I can't believe no pix of that. Unless...he holding them . Leona where are you.


SyS





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posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 12:57 AM
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Well I'll be a son of a gun. No I didn't take it down. Hell I was just on there. I wonder whats going on now? Let me try one more time s206.photobucket.com...
I probably should not even try to contribute anything. Just let it all happen whenever it's supposed to.



posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 01:00 AM
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That worked, I think I forgot the backward slash on the end or something. Try it now. I guess I'm not in trouble at least for the moment.



posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 02:55 AM
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Thanx for fixing the link..we certainly needed something else to consider.how can you tell the tic marks are where the mining ops are.? I am not an engineer or geologist so I don't know. I can't really distinguish terrain from machinery no matter how hard I looked. The only anomaly I can see is the ship itself, and no one can claim hoax on those which are on official sites. Thanx for your contribution don't take this as it not, as every bit helps.
Sys

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posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by shots
since when does the moons surface have a shine to it?


I would like to instruct you to go out side, while the sun is on the other side of the planet(night time) and look into the sky. You will see the moon(most of the time).

You may also look around you, the area will be slightly illiminated, this is not light that comes directly from the moon, this is light that BOUNCES off the moon and comes onto earth. The moon does not eminate its own light, which would be the case if it did not reflect any light. SO rather then saying things like that, just go out side and see for yourself that the moon does indeed reflect light.



posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 10:21 AM
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Here is a satalight picture of the objec tin question, takeing from Apollo 15

www.lpi.usra.edu...

Just because this here video is not compltly true, does not jade the fact that THERE IS SOMETHING THERE.

I am going to continue to search Nasa sites and see if the Apollo 17 mission got a photo of this site.

--- here is a 2nd picture of the object, from the same flight.

www.lpi.usra.edu...

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posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 11:42 AM
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TK, Thats the exact photo (9625) that I cropped and uploaded to my photobucket site because of size restrictions. The proof of the pudding or the Holy Grail is the Trajectory flight Atlas for that revolution 62. It can be also downloaded from that Lunar Planetary website (over 3meg picture) but I cropped the portion of it to show the tic marks. If you notice the space ship is to the right of two craters in the photo and the photo mentions Iszak (sp). You just have to correspond the trajectory map for those two craters and Iszak and poof, theres a brown tic mark on the trajectory map to the right of those two craters. The same goes for the red tic mark next to the crater Pirquet. Originally I thought that maybe the aft or engine portion was marked there (red=fire,propulsion) because the spacecraft just looked like the nose section but when I used Microsoft Windows picture and Fax viewer to zoom in I noticed the spacecraft with the antenna sticking up, the mining machine, pipes etc. If you use software like Adobe Photo or any CCD Picture software all it does is add pixels, little tiny squares, try the fax viewer software it doesn't add anything and you can zoom in to your hearts content until it becomes to distorted. I figure about 150X magnification is about right. Remember 115 Kilometers above the Lunar surface is how far away the Apollo flights were. The ship is therefore huge.



posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by TKainZero

Originally posted by shots
since when does the moons surface have a shine to it?
SO rather then saying things like that, just go out side and see for yourself that the moon does indeed reflect light.
I know this was to not directed to me, but I can not let pass the fact that an object can reflect light and do not have a shining appearance, and I think that shots was talking about the shininess of the supposed surface of the Moon.

That is the same difference between a glossy sheet of paper, like those used in photography, and a normal photocopier type sheet of paper. Both reflect light, but only the glossy paper has a specular reflection.



posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by spacecaseIf you use software like Adobe Photo or any CCD Picture software all it does is add pixels, little tiny squares, try the fax viewer software it doesn't add anything and you can zoom in to your hearts content until it becomes to distorted.
Actually, the fax viewer is the one who adds information, it interpolates the pixels and creates what it "thinks" would be a bigger version of the image.

Photoshop and others like it can do the same thing when we resize the image, but they do not change the image when zoomed in, they just show bigger pixels.



posted on Aug, 10 2007 @ 08:28 PM
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I am always wary of things that add things yet it is acceptable when reconstructing things like dinosaurs from a few pieces of leg bones. some hoaxes were accepted as fact I believe in Europe about a skull that had been deliberately altered and left to be discovered, much like some hoaxters would salt fields with bits of gold to lure buyers of the land. I can't recall the name I am sure some anthropologist here will help fill that void. If the process can fill gaps that were lost in compression, that should not by itself disqualify the photo as that is expected.
This is now the third incarnation of this fascinating story, and I think the author(s)/creator have much more to gain by coming foward like leona. I think we have evolved a little bit beyond expecting that someone will be snuffed, after releasing info and selling items. If there were such a fear , then he/she would not sell as, all income from sales is traceable, especially during these times. This applies to Rutledge, to Isaac, and the Titor scenario.



posted on Aug, 14 2007 @ 12:08 AM
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I am giving CDR a little more time if only because of his age, but I never underestimate an old pool shark as he can beat you to death with a pool stick just as easily as a young pool hustler can . No..we need to give him a little more slack..time..before we haul him in. This would make a great movie I think..and I want to see a little more from this storyweavr.., unlike Titor and Isaac , the former i would never hire as a stockbroker for sure, and Isaac to wage war, because of the coward and LMH/C2C boot licker he is. CDR reads like one of the old masters, old school, and leaves us genuinley interested, not frustrated.

SyS

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posted on Aug, 16 2007 @ 07:26 PM
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OlegkVasha nice job on bringing out the discrepancy of the launchpad photo. They say it was flipped but still valid. I wish there was a way to get detail if that was Vandenburg. They had built a huge pad they claim was never used.

Its was nice to see your name on spaceheroes

Olegkvasha asks hey wassup with this

Good Job

SyS



posted on Aug, 17 2007 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by spacecase
The proof of the pudding or the Holy Grail is the Trajectory flight Atlas for that revolution 62. It can be also downloaded from that Lunar Planetary website (over 3meg picture)


Hi spacecase,

Is there any chance you can post a direct link to this over 3meg image ? I can't find it! The closest I could find was : www.lpi.usra.edu...


Also, your photobucket account seems to have no photos in it (again?!!).



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 11:03 AM
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Some new pics are up at the spaceheroes site. As I am not an anlyst and some of you seem to be gifted I hope you can continue to contribute to this thread. These boys appear dead serious.




SyS



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