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Russian Aircraft Carrier Adm. Kuznetsov


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reply posted on 7-12-2002 @ 08:01 PM by Estragon


Only one carrier of any class in their navy, and that's arguably unoperational.
Among other things, the Russians have still to check on who owns exactly what as far as the Crimea and the Black Sea are concerned: Russia or the new Ukraine: so responsibilities for port facilities are often in doubt.
The Kuznetsov's sister-ship: was the Tbilisi (then Georgia went) and became Admiral Gorshkov, was at the heart of a long and sorry saga of negotiating a sale with India (you'll find that searching the ship's name).

The interest in the Soviet avaition cruiser programme is that it is a very clear-cut and neat example of how the Soviets' attempts to match the USA as a super-power led inevitably to bankruptcy: what must have been wasted on this line of aborted progammes beggars belief.



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reply posted on 8-12-2002 @ 04:38 PM by f16falcon


ok thx for the clairafaction



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reply posted on 14-1-2003 @ 07:28 PM by GRENADIER


Hey correct me if I am wrong but I dont see any catapults on the deck of this beast? Is the ramp capable of generating the lift needed to get the aircraft up?



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reply posted on 15-1-2003 @ 02:31 AM by ultra_phoenix


Originally posted by GRENADIER
Hey correct me if I am wrong but I dont see any catapults on the deck of this beast? Is the ramp capable of generating the lift needed to get the aircraft up?


No, you right ! Gee, I didn't notice it when I did this topic.

Many thanks for your comment.

" The lack of catapults precludes launching aircraft with heavy strike loads, and the air superiority orientation of the air wing is apparent. "

Read more : Link


[Edited on 15-1-2003 by ultra_phoenix]



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reply posted on 26-6-2003 @ 05:50 PM by KrazyIvan


*sigh* ivan can sure build em pretty.



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reply posted on 26-6-2003 @ 05:53 PM by KrazyIvan


russian naval air superiority? whats that?



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reply posted on 26-6-2003 @ 05:56 PM by ultra_phoenix


Originally posted by KrazyIvan
russian naval air superiority? whats that?


A commies dream. Or a western nightmare.



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reply posted on 26-6-2003 @ 06:01 PM by Leveller


Russia has never needed large aircraft carriers.
Her intended theatre of operations was Europe where she would have had land based aircraft that could reach the intended targets.

That's not to say that her results of dabbling with naval aviation have been inferior to the US.
The Kiev class cruisers were way ahead of anything we had at the time.

It will be interesting to see how many of these large carriers Russia develops. They would be an indicator whether she has intentions of working militarily further afield.

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reply posted on 12-7-2003 @ 09:37 PM by KrazyIvan


this carrier is nothing. its comperable to only one of our marine carriers. you know those little carrier like ships that the marines use for helicopters and harriers. thats all it is. a Nimitz class carrier would make that thing its bitch.



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