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The Rise and Fall of the Bush Dynasty

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posted on Aug, 2 2007 @ 07:34 PM
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I wrote the following for another thread, but it offers an insight into why there has been so little rhyme or reason to the management of the war.

To make a long story short, Bush 41 manuevered into the white house when his owners never meant for him to go that far. The Gulf War was intended to be a reconciliation- Bush would give the NWO what it wanted, and the costs would probably destroy Bush politically- but the Gulf War went fine. Bush still had the clout to put a son up for election, and it happened. They took George instead of JEB, they pulled him away from his father who had been able to outdo them time and again, and they lead Bush 43 on a path that would give their NWO even more, and this time destroy the Bush family for good as well.
Here's the original post:

It's not who you can buy, it's who wants to buy you.

If wealth alone could explain Bush's presidency, Ross Perot would have been elected in 92 and probably served two terms, and odds are that Warren Buffet would have followed him.

Money alone won't do it though. Those with not only the real money but the real power, through well-placed investments and connections to others who are well invested- in short those who own the machinery that makes our society possible- don't lower themselves to the level of the white house (which is the office of the Vice President of Public Relations). They buy off lower-level people to do their dirty work. Like kings, they choose families to a hereditary peerage, and it is the duty of these lesser families to be the middle management and to handle the serfs.

The Bush family is one such family. Samuel P Bush was the "knight" who made the family- he did well in the service of the Rockerfellers and so they got his son Prescott Bush into the Skull and Bones to be groomed to fill his father's shoes in the future.

Prescott Bush furthered the family through his willingness to dirty his hands and do what was asked of him. He was successful in the business he was charged with, he was willing to be the person at risk in such business as dealing with the Nazis, etc.

His son was groomed to fill his shoes in the Skull and Bones, and on the basis of two previous generations of dependable and faithful service he was allowed into the big game. He played it well- perhaps too well for his family's own good. He was greedy. He wanted a promotion. He wanted the presidency. Ford tried to make him unelectable by sending him to the CIA- that was not a gesture of good will.

But Bush came back anyway in the 1980 campaign- at least he could be controlled. Nobody counted on Reagan beating him senseless in the primaries. They scrambled to force Ford onto the ticket, and he would bring Kissinger and Greenspan with him- the fact of the matter was, they intended to steal Reagan's administration from him with a "co-presidency" dominated by Ford.
Who knew that Reagan hated Ford and Carter more than he feared Bush's "liberal" appearance? Bush bowed down to a new master, embracing Reagan's platform, and got himself a vice presidency that was never intended to be his.
To make it right again, they shot Ronald Reagan- a favor done for Bush that gave him more clout in the administration and repurchased his loyalty, as well as serving as a reminder that the elected are meant to follow orders.

By virtue of the position he'd manuevered himself into, Bush 41 was allowed to become their president briefly. They used him for their manuever with respect to Iraq, expecting it to destroy him, but "The Mother of All Battles" was a shockingly one sided affair, to the shock of all the experts (even the commandant of the Marine Corps took one look at the original battle plan from Schwartz-wartz and said, "My God, it'll be another Tarawa"). So they used economics to get rid of Bush and they put up Clinton, with stunning success.

Bush was still pushing his dynasty, and it was time for the next move in the middle east anyways, so they went ahead and gave Bush enough rope to hang himself with.
This Bush didn't have the moral courage or the cunning to manuever the way his father had. He broke from his father and he was a good soldier, much more in the style of Prescott Bush than George H. W. Bush, and he didn't even understand that he was being punished for his father's ambition. They used him to get what they wanted and destroy the Bush family at the same time.

The Bush family is bought for a purpose, and punished harshly when it does anything other than what it is paid to do. It's not the money, it's making yourself a commodity.




posted on Aug, 2 2007 @ 07:41 PM
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In my opinion, George W. has been set up as a fall guy. As the whole scheme unravels, as it apparently is now, George W. has been set in place as a scapegoat. He is just someone for history to blame.. that's all.



posted on Aug, 2 2007 @ 07:51 PM
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I basically agree, but the question is why Bush? Why not some johnny come lately who isn't in his family's fourth generation of service to the NWO? Afterall, the Bush family has A LOT of secrets to fight back with if it wanted to. Why hurt one of them?

The answer in my mind is that George H.W. Bush played them, and they want payback. They have to get rid of this ambitious family. Am I mistaken, or has the latest generation not sent a Bush to Yale? They are being handed their hats.



posted on Aug, 2 2007 @ 08:01 PM
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What Dynasty! The father only got to screw up one term, but junior got screw up a whole 8 years and get us in a mess with our budget and this stupid war in Iraq that was suppose to pay for its self!



posted on Aug, 2 2007 @ 08:05 PM
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interesting thoughts. I always assumed Bush was simply the front man to a powerful group of men at the top who make decisions, he is simply the personality. I never thought about the fact that he may be getting payback for screwing others over. My personal opinion is that the Bush family's ties to oil are the reason for all the corrupt BS. Although perhaps a Stargate was discovered in Iraq 20 years ago, and this has been a fight to simply gain control of the mid east in preparation for 2012 or some other big event where they open the Stargate, the world will explode or implode LOL... perhaps the wealthy greedy men at top are the reason for the collapse of man multiple times throughout history. Perhaps a mans greed or curiosity wipes everyone out.



posted on Aug, 2 2007 @ 08:19 PM
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Vagabond, thanks for the story, it was both pleasurable and provocative. Its good to see creative writing and opinion mixed together to form an entertaining, though thoroughly fanciful, tale.

Keep up the good work
I sincerely enjoyed the story, I'm not mocking you.



posted on Aug, 2 2007 @ 08:24 PM
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do you think there is secretly an emperer or a king of the world somewhere that totaly commands our leaders like common subjects....?



posted on Aug, 2 2007 @ 08:36 PM
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Mel,
What Dynasty? 3 Generations in elected office? 20 years in elected position within the executive branch between Bush 41 and Bush 43? Am I ringing any bells?

dictionary.reference.com...

dy·nas·ty
–noun, plural -ties. 1. a sequence of rulers from the same family, stock, or group



Christopher: although I'm a huge fan of Stargate SG-1 (which I realize makes me some kind of freak) I'm not sure if I'm prepared to believe that they exist without some pretty significant evidence.
At least there was some previous evidence for the things dealt with in Dark Skies, and the scenario in the Lone Gunmen pilot actually happened shortly afterward.
But SG-1, unless there is something I don't know about, is just a TV show without any corroboration.
If I am missing something on that topic though, please do U2U me with anything compelling on the subject.

As for oil, the Bush family didn't start out with the power to get itself into office. The only real currency they had coming in was loyalty and ability, and others who had a use for that lent them the power.
To make a long story short, they didn't get the office because they had the power. They got the power because certain people saw that they would be useful in office.
Then George Bush grabbed a bigger office than was meant to be his, and as one of the "front men" he has been hard to get rid of. The only way to get rid of a guy like Bush without disrupting the illusion of democracy is to disgrace him or to kill him covertly. It's been a long time coming, but the new Bush is getting his disgrace.



posted on Aug, 2 2007 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by newyorkee
do you think there is secretly an emperer or a king of the world somewhere that totaly commands our leaders like common subjects....?


The angle from which I approach these things does not give me the insight to determine the answer to that question. It depends on what the elite value.

If its strictly about wealth and power and maintaining the status of their families, which go back to royalty almost without exception, then perhaps there is a somewhat ballanced heirarchy of multiple kings with their own dominions who occasionally go to war.

If it is religious, perhaps it is a descendant of Christ's line who calls all the shots.

There are many possibilities each with its own attendant power structures.



posted on Aug, 3 2007 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by The VagabondTo make a long story short, Bush 41 manuevered into the white house when his owners never meant for him to go that far.

They took George instead of JEB, they pulled him away from his father who had been able to outdo them time and again, and they lead Bush 43 on a path that would give their NWO even more, and this time destroy the Bush family for good as well.

They buy off lower-level people to do their dirty work. Like kings, they choose families to a hereditary peerage, and it is the duty of these lesser families to be the middle management and to handle the serfs.

They scrambled to force Ford onto the ticket, and he would bring Kissinger and Greenspan with him- the fact of the matter was, they intended to steal Reagan's administration from him with a "co-presidency" dominated by Ford.

they shot Ronald Reagan- a favor done for Bush that gave him more clout in the administration and repurchased his loyalty, as well as serving as a reminder that the elected are meant to follow orders.

They used him for their manuever with respect to Iraq, expecting it to destroy him, but "The Mother of All Battles" was a shockingly one sided affair, to the shock of all the experts (even the commandant of the Marine Corps took one look at the original battle plan from Schwartz-wartz and said, "My God, it'll be another Tarawa").

they used economics to get rid of Bush and they put up Clinton, with stunning success.

they went ahead and gave Bush enough rope to hang himself with.

They used him to get what they wanted and destroy the Bush family at the same time.


A very intriguing read. Do you have any theories on who (specifically) "they" are?

I snipped some of your sentences for effect. I dont think I changed the context in any cases, but if I did I apologize, it was not my intent.



posted on Aug, 3 2007 @ 03:14 PM
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I personally don't know how much complicity George W. has in much of this. When Bush first took office, Clark tried to tell him that his presidency was being hi-jacked. Bush didn't want to hear it.

Then the whole 9/11 crap happened and Bush, at least he thought, was almost untouchable. Everyone seemed to support him going after Osama in Afghanistan, et cetera. However, Bush listened to the likes of Donald Rumsfeld and Cheney and invaded Iraq. From about a year and a half into that war, to the present, it has been relatively down hill for Bush.

I don't aim to make any excuses for Bush because he certainly hasn't done anything to buck those that have destroyed what could have been a very good presidency, but I am just not sure how far into the pudding George W. has his fingers.



posted on Aug, 3 2007 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by The Vagabond
although I'm a huge fan of Stargate SG-1 (which I realize makes me some kind of freak) I'm not sure if I'm prepared to believe that they exist without some pretty significant evidence.



Vagabond, before there was SG-1, there was the original movie, which is quite good. I'm sure you've seen it, but didn't mention it so I wanted to be sure since you said you enjoy the show.

Anyway, that's beside the point. I think what Christopher is referring is old Sumerian artifacts and relics. There are many theories and inturpretations to this ancient civilization, culture and religion. Below is just a quick reference. You can find many more...

Study Paper

An independent archaeologist that discusses a direct link between the ancient ET presence in Sumer (southern Iraq) and current US focus on the regime of Saddam Hussein, is William Henry. Henry's main thesis is that there existed in Sumerian times a technological device which he describes as a 'Stargate', that the Anunnaki/Nephilim used to travel back and forth from their homeworld and the Earth, and also how they travel around the galaxy. (18) Henry focuses on the following scene described by Sitchin's interpretation of a cuneiform tablet of an Uruk ritual text: ...


More on Sumerians and stargates can be seen here:


As for your OP. I agree with your theory. I recently posted an 8 piece bulletin on MySpace about the "Burning Bush" Dynasty in hopes of informing some more main-stream minds out there and convincing them to pay more attention to political candidates when they vote. Hopefully they'll take a little more indepth look into people's past, previous generations, politcal views and at least their voting histories. Good thread!



posted on Aug, 3 2007 @ 03:40 PM
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Bush job was to create a never ending war for the war profiteers in the middle east.

He was set to destroy our system of government and to open the door for the NWO and the real power behind our nations poppet leaders elected by the people and for the people but with the approval of the power.

He did his job and even when he may look like the fall guy he will reap the fruits of his efforts and sacrifices after another takes his place.



posted on Aug, 3 2007 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043

He did his job and even when he may look like the fall guy he will reap the fruits of his efforts and sacrifices after another takes his place.


I don't know...
I am being honest. I am not a big Bush fan, but there is something that doesn't sit well with me in regards to what is and has occurred during his presidency.



posted on Aug, 3 2007 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
there is something that doesn't sit well with me in regards to what is and has occurred during his presidency.


And you should feel uncomfortable and worry that is natural after what has been happening in our nation and with the present administration.

Just remember that his legacy will be the next president play ground to do and play with as he or she wishes.



posted on Aug, 3 2007 @ 08:23 PM
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Thanks for all the replies and positive comments. Forgive me for being forward, but don't forget that if you think this thread should be seen by others, you can flag it.


Originally posted by darkbluesky
A very intriguing read. Do you have any theories on who (specifically) "they" are?


"They" are a persistent mystery to me, as to many others. Their origin and the level of generational continuity are not perfectly clear, nor are the principles by which they organize their rule.

What is clear is that they derive their power from not only their immense wealth but their positioning of that wealth in certain vital industires which make up the "military industrial complex".
At one point in history they were extremely conspicuous and it was very clear who they. During the early 20th century, courtesy of Major General Smedley Butler, USMC, they were explicitly named for their complicity in a plot against Roosevelt, and also by their key roles in the initial attempts at a world government in the form of the League of Nations and UN and complimentary organizations.
Their membership can still be somewhat inferred by who owns and runs the companies which most unjustly benefit from actions of the government.

I infer from their resistance to Roosevelt and from the presence of many shocking intrigues earlier in American history, particularly pertaining to the establishment of the standing army and central bank, that this group is several hundred years old, and has succeeded in manuevering to survive multiple popular revolutions- first democracy, then socialism.

I might further speculate that they could have their roots in the advent of joint stock companies as government-granted monopolies, or at least that the same may have been vital to their evolution. Notice the flag of the British East India Company: link to image
Now see the defacto first flag of the United States, never adopted by congress but heavily used, particularly as a naval ensign: Link to Image
The differ only in the size of the canton.

In short, you will know them by their deeds.

As for the level of George Bush's complicity: I don't think he gets it. I think he has made a conscious decision to follow his dad's powerful friends instead of his dad, but I don't think he has any clue of the real stakes, and he obviously doesn't realize that they are destroying him. Instrumental in that is the fact that Condi, who rumor has it was pretty much hand-picked by Bush 41 to keep his son out of trouble, ended up leading Bush down the same path that Cheney and Rumsfled were.

[edit on 3-8-2007 by The Vagabond]



posted on Aug, 3 2007 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
In my opinion, George W. has been set up as a fall guy.


I completely agree. The "powers that be" are not ready to wash their hands of Bush and put their next tool in power.

The name changes but the game stays the same.

I don't doubt that Bush knew this was going to happen, he's probably happy to be moving out of the lime light so the next stooge can take over.



posted on Aug, 4 2007 @ 09:58 AM
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Here is an exercise: can the principles dealt with here predict future dynasties and leaders?
Is anyone game to look into the up and coming families that are likely to produce future dynasties?

I dont mean the obvious finger pointed at Hillary but if we look at who has been working for whom in the past 20 years, who is marrying well, etc, can we anticipate that such and such person is going to be a senator, or such and such son of a senator is going to choose to attend Yale and become an executive appointment?



posted on Aug, 4 2007 @ 08:41 PM
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Well the military industrial complex certainly found there puppet in Bush senior so to speak. If you ever wanted someone who the strings could be attached to and manipulated Bush is your man he is easily influenced by others and out of his depth. The term puppet may be a bit harsh but Bush certainly resembles a figure a head in his admin the real players are Cheney and Rumsfeld when he was around.



posted on Aug, 4 2007 @ 09:12 PM
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The Bush dynasty has contributed to curroption within the whitehouse since the fall of Hitler.
Coupled together with various aspects of the neo-cons ( wolfy, rummy, chenney ) they are a very dangerous mix.

These men ACTUALLY believe they were responsible for bringing down the soviet empire..

As Ive said before, the American forefathers wrote the constitution specifically, so men like these would never be able to manipulate and control the United States.

While in power, they are re-writing your laws, specifically so they can.

If the people declare themselves 'patriotic' its your DUTY to forcefully remove these criminals from power.

Whats that saying?
All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing ????
'correct me if im wrong'

well the entire United states is sitting front stage watching evil men slowly ruin your nations pride and standing.
Your complaining, and rightly so...

Isnt it about time you showed to the world what the REAL people of the United States are about?
That you will not stand by while these men hijack your nation?

Hang the criminals.
Do not even let them explain why they chose to do what they did.


Tie that rope tight, ensure it is stiff.. check the beams then stare into Bush's and Cheney's eyes.
I gaurantee you, that smug, ignorant, arogant grin will be gone.
The billions they raped of innocent lives will mean nothing, because as sooon as that swift kick remove that 3 legged chair, they are going to understand what humanity is about.

I prey their necks dont snap, so the last thing they see, is their own people looking back at them in utter disgust, slowly removing the frown for a smile, as their eyes grow weak, and their legs start kicking.



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