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Originally posted by StellarX
quote]Originally posted by Glyph_D
reply to post by StellarX
as for the diamond issue they succumb to entropy as well. if you heat a diamond enough it will rupture(into dust), heat it more it brakes back down ito liquid carbon.
But for that you will need to intelligent apply energy or wait for forces inside the Earth to break it apart and it will surely take more energy to destroy it than it did to create it.
Stellar X, I am a bit confused in regards to the diamond analogy. Are you implying that it is fairly difficult or requires a large amount of energy to destroy a diamond?
[edit on 11-10-2007 by AugustusMasonicus]
Originally posted by Glyph_D
i did not say we couldnt obtain these achievements, what im saying is we havent.
if you wish we can wait till we(humans) obtain that level, then we can continue this discussion.
im not going to argue about the future; which isnt much more than a pipe dream to begin with:/
the majority of scientific discovery is obtained through hindsight.
with that knowledge- it would be a childs leaps to understand that we wont truely know the depths and follys of our universe(becuase of its sheer size and shelflife).
however we can make educated guesses, and entropy is one of those guesses(its fairly accurate as well).
2. your negentropy is pseudoscience. your peter-pan existence needs ideas like this to thrive.
from my perspective your the one with very little understanding of the world which you live "within".
my(your) mind, body,and spirit are all dictated by entropy. to say otherwise is a failure in understanding of life in general.
Originally posted by jim_w
(note that it's 11pm here so please excuse minor errors ;-)
I think it would help this discussion if you exactly state the definition of the second law which you're using.
A lot of people have confused ideas about the second law meaning that complex systems always turn into less complex systems or things like that, but that's not what the second law says.
Any valid formulation of the second law is completely equivalent to saying that no heat flows from cooler to hotter regions. (I got it right this time!)