posted on Oct, 21 2007 @ 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Glyph_D
i did not say we couldnt obtain these achievements, what im saying is we havent.
We have gone to the moon and we have had the technology to go to nearby stars since the mid 60's. According to conventional theory our sun will
pretty much go on doing what it's doing now (sustaining life as we know it) for a additional four billion years and i wondering why you think we
can't colonize at least a few galaxies in that space of time or for that matter why you think we have not started!
if you wish we can wait till we(humans) obtain that level, then we can continue this discussion.
We have long ago obtained the level of technology and the political willpower as evidence by the moon landings so we should continue this discussion.
im not going to argue about the future; which isnt much more than a pipe dream to begin with:/
When you argue about the effects of entropy you ARE arguing about the future as what it might entail in entirely theoretical and then predicated on a
whole bunch of facts not in evidence.
the majority of scientific discovery is obtained through hindsight.
The majority of scientific discovery comes from investigating the contradictions contained in that era's scientific 'truths'. Many breakthroughs
may be rediscovered but then overwhelmingly so due to the establishment nature of hiding what conflicts with it's agenda and destroying the
reputations of those scientist involved in the initial discoveries.
with that knowledge- it would be a childs leaps to understand that we wont truely know the depths and follys of our universe(becuase of its
sheer size and shelflife).
And yet you have already given up hope on the future of the universe and humanities place in it?
however we can make educated guesses, and entropy is one of those guesses(its fairly accurate as well).
So you keep telling me without having provided any more evidence than you initially refused to.
If this theory is so well established and 'true'
why can't you just start properly sourcing the theories you have derived from it?
2. your negentropy is pseudoscience. your peter-pan existence needs ideas like this to thrive.
Negentropy is not a pseudo-science as evidence by the source you just , once again, refused to address! Sure you can argue the implications but the
fact that you entirely ignore the same type of establishment 'facts' that claim to defend is quite extraordinary...
from my perspective your the one with very little understanding of the world which you live "within".
And that might be the case but for now lets focus on this specific area?
my(your) mind, body,and spirit are all dictated by entropy. to say otherwise is a failure in understanding of life in general.
I do not see how the reversal of entropy that is the human thought process ( and lets not forget the dams otter brains seems to result in ) that leads
to the initiation of so much organization can be called entropy and i have yet to see you provide the scientific basis for claiming that life in
general , and human beings in particular, are anything but a reversal of entropy on at least the local scale.