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The Truth About The Columbine Massacre: A Black Op.

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posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 06:48 AM
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My research into the events of Columbine began after I realized that the Santana High School Shooting and the Virginia Tech Massacre both looked to be black ops, then I remembered Columbine, and how many people were reporting more than 2 people with guns in black.

The official story? Outrageous. The two killers had somehow carried in 100 bombs, some of them large, 20 pound propane bombs. It is impossible for them to have carried this many explosives inside the building. Matt Katzenmeier saw 4 subjects carrying bags into the school. (www.cbsnews.com...) (www.whatreallyhappened.com...)

Eric Harris had deep military connections. His father was an air force transport pilot who had been linked to covert AF intelligence projects going back nearly 20 years. The Harrises lived at Plattsburgh Air Force Base, which is rumored to have a secret facility deep under the runway. John Quinn of NewsHawk reports that they have received testimony from someone who worked in Plattsburgh Air Force Base, who said that Eric Harris was a subject of MKULTRA experiments there. When the Harrises moved to Littleton after Wayne Harris retired from the military, the horror wasn't over. Littleton is close to Denver International Airport (Which Harris even mentions in his Journal), which is rumored to serve as a cover for an underground government complex. While the rumors of an underground complex remain officially unconfirmed (Though a massive amount of evidence shows that they are true), what is a fact is that the airport is shaped like a Swastika, and that inside are bizarre paintings of death, destruction, and despair, as well as cryptic words on the ground and Masonic capstones, as well as a keypad that has no apparent purpose. (www.think-aboutit.com...) (www.anomalies-unlimited.com...)

Dozens of witnesses saw multiple shooters. All of these corroborated accounts cannot be dismissed as 'fog of war' confusion. There's just too many. Some of the reports report men with black masks, jumpsuits, and berets. In fact, we cannot dismiss one unidentified girl's account as 'fog of war' confusion at all, as she saw 3 people outside the parking lot with guns a few hours before the shooting, who were not Harris and Klebold, and she thought they were role playing. (ia340915.us.archive.org...) (www.whatreallyhappened.com...) (www.think-aboutit.com...)

Further suggesting government complicity, the ATF was witnessed planting two 30lb bombs by Jefferson County Law Enforcement, who will not talk about what they saw. This was reported by John Quinn of NewsHawk. (www.think-aboutit.com...)

One of the strong points of government complicity is the well-known fact that government officials were observing the school hours before the shootings began. What most people don't know is that a local hospital had received a warning from a government agent. (www.apfn.org...)

Articles from the Associated Press reveal that Ballistics evidence shows that 6 of the 13 victims in the massacre were possibly killed by the SWAT team. (www.cbsnews.com...)

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Eric Harris was deeply connected to the military and government all his life, there were tons of different shooters, Ballistics showed the possibility of authorities executing students, warnings and observers, and the impossible story of 100+ bombs being brought in. Also notable is that one student said Harris' eyes looked dead. More evidence of MKULTRA




posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 10:03 AM
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well im not really sure what to say.....i guess the question..why ? comes up, why would you masacure so many people for no obvious reason. You got any more info on this, i may of read some wrong, if so...sorry, any way, show me what you got lol


Take Care, Vix



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 10:25 AM
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just another way of grabbing public attention in order to bring the public down and take the attention away from something else. Have you noticed that 9/11, columbine, and VT are commonly referenced in public speeches for rallying citizen support? Also, 1 more way to get what they want when it comes to "Protection" of citizens and "Freedom"



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Vixion
well im not really sure what to say.....i guess the question..why ? comes up, why would you masacure so many people for no obvious reason.


Yeah I have to agree with you there. The question I have is exactly the same as yours. Why?

Good thread - makes me wonder.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 10:36 AM
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Every one im sorry but im going to have to say...Northwoods, this sounds like project northwoods, i know in northwoods it didnt say hurt peopel but maybe they felt like they had to, for all you who dont know about Project northwoods, in 1962 i believe, the CIA and other agencies made a plan or just came up with an idea to get suport to invade Cuba, the end plan was northwoods, US attacks US and blames CUube, that gives all the surport they need and its all good, So could the US of done these things for future laws and wars to go with out any though from the US average joe ?

as mostt he things i say, that will take some hard reading to nderstand that lol. but i hope you do, is it to far out there ? or is it a good idea ?

take care, Vix



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Vixion
well im not really sure what to say.....i guess the question..why ? comes up, why would you masacure so many people for no obvious reason. You got any more info on this, i may of read some wrong, if so...sorry, any way, show me what you got lol


Take Care, Vix


The same reason to stage terror attacks : to scare the public into a dictatorship / police state. The reason is to control you by using fear.

Papers please, papers !

It's not a new tactic but it works amazingly well.

Another great reason is it allows you to put more cops in schools which in turn helps desensitize the future generations to the upcoming police state.

Yipee !


to the OP : excellent research ... something new for me to sink my teeth into. I don't put this past "them" for a second.

[edit on 1-8-2007 by discomfit]



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 10:41 AM
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Although I really dont believe this was a covert op or whatever. However there are reasons for something like this to be done by the Govt and one of those motives is to crack down on guns. Also the many videos of the shooting from the cameras placed throughout the school showed people how well surveillance cameras work and how they are our "friends."

Like i said though, i dont believe this is the case but it sure helped the Govt achieve those goals.
What I believe happened is pretty much what was said, the kids got tired of being F'd with everyday at school and they decided to retaliate HARD.
I was never bullied nor was I a bully but I saw it happen everyday in my school days, I could definitely see the anger and humiliation in the kids faces.

[edit on 8/1/2007 by Kr0n0s]



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by LordCarpainter

Further suggesting government complicity, the ATF was witnessed planting two 30lb bombs by Jefferson County Law Enforcement, who will not talk about what they saw. This was reported by John Quinn of NewsHawk. (www.think-aboutit.com...)


I am a bit puzzled by the above link you provided in regards to 'evidence' or terminology....



Organization: EAGLES NEST HOLDINGS All facts appear to be absolutely correct. Not only was there a Major general at the scene, QUICKLY, but there where CIA, NSA, MI6, NATO and of course the Federal Bureau of Incompetence. Consider these points:


In reference to 'NATO', is this implied to be NATO as in 'North Atlantic Treaty Organization'???

I would find it hard to swallow that NATO, as a whole or in part, would have anything to do with a 'School Shooting' or anything similar.


NATO.. for the ill-informed

I also observed MI-6 being mentioned as being a participant. I can see no-where in the 'story' of anyone who could even identify an MI-6 agent let along know what one would look like.

Is it possible they wore Jackets/hats or buttons with their organizations logo's on it, so it would be easy to refer to them later in the event of someone yelling conspiracy??

Don't mean to sound harsh, it just bothers me where everything and anything gets turned into a conspiracy ( unfounded IMO )



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 11:33 AM
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Witnesses are unreliable.

Up here, a nutter by the name of Kimveer Gill assaulted a college. He was armed only with a Beretta CX4 Storm carbine and some pea shooter of a pistol... a Walther P22 I think.

Witnesses descriptions of him to polive varied so wildly (some so stupid as to say he was carrying a "machine gun") that the cops thought there was more than one gunman.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Kr0n0s
Although I really dont believe this was a covert op or whatever. However there are reasons for something like this to be done by the Govt and one of those motives is to crack down on guns. Also the many videos of the shooting from the cameras placed throughout the school showed people how well surveillance cameras work and how they are our "friends."

Like i said though, i dont believe this is the case but it sure helped the Govt achieve those goals.
What I believe happened is pretty much what was said, the kids got tired of being F'd with everyday at school and they decided to retaliate HARD.
I was never bullied nor was I a bully but I saw it happen everyday in my school days, I could definitely see the anger and humiliation in the kids faces.

[edit on 8/1/2007 by Kr0n0s]


Well, seeing that Eric Harris was subjected to MKULTRA projects, there's no question that it was a covert op.

Eric Harris had been brainwashed at Plattsburgh AFB in his childhood, and at the day of Columbine, 50% of the school was mysteriously absent. This means that thousands had foreknowledge. The hospital was warned by a government agent, DIA was mentioned in Harris' journal, Wayne Harris was linked to covert intelligence ops, it gave off the obvious signs of a black op.

When someone shoots up a school, you know it's a black op if they were an MKULTRA victim at an air force base. That's the case with Harris. Dylan Klebold was a mystery, though he too was taking mind-altering drugs, but whether he was brainwashed is a mystery, and it seems less likely since his parents don't have a military background. I have also heard that Harris' mother was connected to the military in some way as well.

As for NATO, this is based on videotapes showing NATO trucks (The feed was cut as soon as it closed up on the truck), and eyewitnesses who saw NATO personell.

And, I don't turn everything into conspiracy. Just things with evidence. I mean, you've gotta look at this. Eric Harris was an MKULTRA victim, and that's documented! That's the biggest smoking gun in this whole case. Eric Harris was subjected to mind control.

Another huge smoking gun I mentioned is that half the school was absent, according to witnesses. This indicates the foreknowledge of thousands of people.

Before and after Columbine, there was also this weird doctor by the name of Deagle going around offering implantable microchips and one parent said he was trying to put her son under mind control. One parent was afraid he 'chipped' their son. Quite a suspicious character to be running around in Littleton right in time for the shooting. Awhile after the shooting, Deagle left town.

But that's the big smoking gun here: Eric Harris was a documented MKULTRA victim. That is decisive evidence of a black op.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 12:28 PM
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this reminds me of that mel gibson movie,it is possible that something went wrong and they had to get rid of evidence that would exspose their project. or one of their subjects just went ape-# and they had to get rid of them.

you have to remember not too long ago they were talking about a bomb they tried/did make that when activated and deployed whoever in range would be effected by it... called the love bomb.ment to make men want to have sex with other men.."the gay bomb" is what they called it.. sounds stupid but it's true... just think... they (gov/military) can create an air born chemical that can # with your mind like that,so why not make or develope something to turn you into a killer at will.
THE GAY BOMB



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 02:19 PM
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Repress the children first- or "Protect" the children first- as they would say. Makes sense.

I remember when I was a freshman in HS. I skipped school several times. It was easy. We just drove in and out or the parking lot. We couldn't walk because our HS was in between towns and a decent walk to anything. Each year I was there, security got tighter and tighter until my senior year we had a retired State Police officer at the only gate that was left open for cars to travel in and out. Just before our graduation they began random locker searches with K-9's. Ours was the first school in the area to implement such strict security in the region.

A year after I graduated HS the Columbine Shootings happened. Months after the incident ALL schools had such security. When you raise a child in such a confined and restricted environment, they rarely ever question such condidtions.

I can't say one way or the other whether it was a Black Op because I wasn't a witness to the strange occurances, but if someone wants to know why such an event would want to be carried out — a Police State Society very well could be the answer. Just as Operation Notherwoods was referenced above, most of us are familiar with "A New American Century" doctrine and we know such sick and twisted agenda do exsist in society.

[edit on 1-8-2007 by tyranny22]



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 03:08 PM
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I present to you an essay written by Eric Harris on 12-10-1997 titled 'Guns In Schools'. Just a reminder the shooting happened 4-20-1999.


One of the Columbine High School gunmen prepared a report on the danger of guns in schools more than a year before carrying out a deadly attack on teachers and fellow students. Eric Harris's December 1997 school report was included in more than 900 pages of Columbine-related documents released yesterday by Colorado investigators. In grading the Harris report, a copy of which you'll find below, a Columbine teacher judged it "thorough & logical" and gave the paper a 69 out of 75. Noting that, "a school is no place for a gun," Harris concluded that the use of metal detectors and an increased police presence "are a great start to fight against guns in school." On April 20, 1999, Harris and Dylan Klebold--armed with shotguns and semiautomatic weapons--murdered 12 classmates and a teacher before killing themselves. (5 pages)


This is the actual essay that was turned in, they are scanned pages.

Eric Harris' School Report.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 03:20 PM
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wow some interesting information and evidence have been brought to my attention in this thread.

70% of the information posted in the OP is completely new to me

the essay in the post above is very strange too.. well not the essay itself just the subject matter of the essay in accordance to the events that took place 2 years later

blackop project or not this is very suspicious looking.. even 8 years after the fact



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 03:45 PM
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I think LordCarpainter is on to something here. I'm going to start reading and researching based on this new info I've never read before.

Thanks LordCarpainter if you come up with anything else please share.



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 04:23 PM
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The link I am providing has some good info, especially concerning the head FBI agent and the involvement his son had in making a film of a high school massacre 2 years before it happened.

I attempted to copy and paste some of the link as an external source but was stopped by a copyright protection.

beyond-the-illusion.com...

[edit on 1-8-2007 by interestedalways]



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 04:26 PM
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Articles from the Associated Press reveal that Ballistics evidence shows that 6 of the 13 victims in the massacre were possibly killed by the SWAT team. (www.cbsnews.com...)

This article only mentions one student, and the police officer admits that he 'may have shot a student by accident.' Can you tell me where it mentions the other 5?

Thanks!



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 04:57 PM
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Sighhhh.... Does everything have to turn into a conspiracy theory??

Before I go any further, nice job OP, for putting some research into this and getting a lot of information out there. Don't take my misgivings as a personal attack, that is not my intent.

After reading through some of the links to humor myself and others, I just can't get away from thinking that maybe, just maybe, this was just a case of two picked upon adolescent boys (young men, whatever) that felt that they had enough of the torments that teenage-hood, school and this "gotta be cool and accepted" cliquey society in which we live. Could it be that they felt so alone and cast away by their peers that they felt that the only thing that they could do was to immortalize themselves in an act like this? Could it be that simple?

I can see where some thing don't add up, but they rarely do in situations like this. There are so many variables and so much confusion, panic and mind-numbing terror that it is easy to get details wrong after the fact.

I will bend on the idea that there may have been others involved in the shootings. It could be that one or two may have wanted to shoot and kill others, but weren't so keen on the suicide part. Maybe they wore jumpsuits which were easily removed and hidden, shot Harris and Klebold and escaped with the rest of the students. Who knows. But mind control?

What sort of man was Harris Sr. that he would offer his son up to these sort of things? Yeah, I know people are sick, but come on!! Did someone come up to him one day at the Base and say "Hey, we want to perform all kinds of mind control experiments on your son, zombify him and send him into his school to kill as many of his schoolmates as he can". Sr. replies, "Great!! When do we start?".

I don't know, I'd have to be provided with some really hard core proof, not speculation, before I could begin to take this one seriously.

BTW, I couldn't help but laugh when I saw this at the bottom of the "Think About It" site. ---"DISCLAIMER: I make no claims for the accuracy of this information and express no personal opinion on the matter."



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 04:59 PM
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The answer is gun control!


www.cnn.com...
It was one of the bloodiest episodes in U.S. history, and one of a dozen shootings in schools from Bethel, Alaska, to Conyers, Georgia, during an 18-month period.

The shootings aroused concerns about school safety and gun control, fears that were still very real for many Americans a year later. Just days before the one-year anniversary of the Columbine shooting, a Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll found that 70 percent of Americans believed such a shooting could occur at a school in their own community.




"Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." - Janet Reno

"While some want to pass new protections for gun manufacturers, to shield them from lawsuits, I will work to get guns off the streets, out of the school and away from children and criminals." - Vice President Al Gore announcing his candidacy for President 6/16/99

"For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future." - Adolph Hitler

"Gun conrtol? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I'm a bad guy, I'm always gonna have a gun. Safty locks? You pull a trigger with a lock on and I'll pull the trigger. We'll see who wins." - Former mobster Sammy "The Bull" Gravano.



"When the people fear the government they have tyranny, when the government fears the people they have freedom." - Samuel Adams (I'll drink to that!)



posted on Aug, 1 2007 @ 05:05 PM
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Can you tell me where it mentions the other 5? Thanks!


This information comes from the en.wikipedia.org... which states:




Articles from the Associated Press state that ballistics from Columbine show that six of the thirteen victims were possibly shot and killed by Jefferson County SWAT (AP, December 7th, 2001, "Columbine Student Killed by Cop"; AP, December 8th, 2001, "Rohrbough, Ballistics show police killed Daniel"). In 2002, an independent investigation disproved accusations against the Jefferson County sheriff's department to the satisfaction of Daniel Rohrbough's parents, the chief proponents of this theory.


[QUOTE]After reading through some of the links to humor myself and others, I just can't get away from thinking that maybe, just maybe, this was just a case of two picked upon adolescent boys (young men, whatever) that felt that they had enough of the torments that teenage-hood, school and this "gotta be cool and accepted" cliquey society in which we live. Could it be that they felt so alone and cast away by their peers that they felt that the only thing that they could do was to immortalize themselves in an act like this? Could it be that simple?[/QUOTE]

Well, one of them had military parents, lived in an air force base, and was subjected to MKULTRA. Those details are proof that it was much more complex.

[QUOTE]I can see where some thing don't add up, but they rarely do in situations like this. There are so many variables and so much confusion, panic and mind-numbing terror that it is easy to get details wrong after the fact.[/QUOTE]

3 or 4 accounts of multiple shooters could be dismissed as the "Fog of War", but hundreds of corroborated accounts cannot be dismissed as confused witnesses.

[QUOTE]I will bend on the idea that there may have been others involved in the shootings. It could be that one or two may have wanted to shoot and kill others, but weren't so keen on the suicide part. Maybe they wore jumpsuits which were easily removed and hidden, shot Harris and Klebold and escaped with the rest of the students. Who knows. But mind control?[/QUOTE]

Seeing as some of them were reportedly men with black masks, the evidence for an inside job is supported by this testimony. And seeing as how Eric Harris was subjected to MKULTRA experiments while he was at Plattsburgh AFB, it is probable that he was a manchurian candidate.

[QUOTE]What sort of man was Harris Sr. that he would offer his son up to these sort of things? Yeah, I know people are sick, but come on!! Did someone come up to him one day at the Base and say "Hey, we want to perform all kinds of mind control experiments on your son, zombify him and send him into his school to kill as many of his schoolmates as he can". Sr. replies, "Great!! When do we start?".[/QUOTE]

Wayne Harris had been linked to covert AF intelligence projects going back nearly 20 years. As sick as it may sound, his secret military life and loyalty to the black op government/NWO.

[QUOTE]I don't know, I'd have to be provided with some really hard core proof, not speculation, before I could begin to take this one seriously.[/QUOTE]

Nothing provided in this post is speculation. It's all evidence. The MKULTRA information was gained from first-hand testimony of someone who worked at Plattsburgh AFB.

[QUOTE]BTW, I couldn't help but laugh when I saw this at the bottom of the "Think About It" site. ---"DISCLAIMER: I make no claims for the accuracy of this information and express no personal opinion on the matter."[/QUOTE]

That's not to say the information isn't factual. It's to say they got it from another source (John Quinn, NewsHawk) and they would be required to say that just so no one can discredit Think About It if the article proves false. But Quinn is going on first-hand testimony of people who worked at Plattsburgh AFB and eyewitnesses.

[edit on 1-8-2007 by LordCarpainter]



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