I hate to break it to you but it might be spce junk or even the dreaded ice crystals, the curve or 'turn' that you see is symply the earths gravity affecting the objects coarse!

Ah, divide and conquer at work.

Easy to say space junk for one of these STS videos, but get thee to Google vid or Youtube and watch the whole gamut of amazing "space junk" captured on the STS missions with UV and IR cameras specially fitted by the DoD. "Meteors" zip by in double formation, and change speed and direction. "Space junk" appears and lights up and falls into circular formations. "Satellites" gather speed and leave earth's atmosphere. "Ice crystals" miles wide swarm about NASA experiments and the MIR.

None of this would have reached us if it hadn't been captured on the sly by a geeky guy in Vancouver.

In fact there's so much "space junk," etc., yadda, yadda, zooming around out there in the UV and IR spectrum it's amazing our satellites, space station, and shuttles aren't regularly destroyed by wayward impacts.

Oh, wait a minute, there might be another reason...

All space junk is already in a orbital path, the earths gravity will not make such adjustments, look up orbital mechanics. I'd like to know why all of those other objects are so well illuminated with the sun on the other side of the earth? I'm sure thier must be an explanation.
You often see incredibly fast objects in these NASA vids, most will say they are meteors but meteors are dark objects until they enter the atmosphere and some are escaping the earths gravity.
It's a UFO, in other words I don't know what it is.

In fact there's so much "space junk," etc., yadda, yadda, zooming around out there in the UV and IR spectrum it's amazing our satellites, space station, and shuttles aren't regularly destroyed by wayward impacts.

While this footage can't be proven (!) natural or artificial, there's a little thing you forget - space is huge, very very huge. In fact, even the low orbit is that much space, that two "larger" objects actually hitting each other is the same probability as a car crash in the center of the sahara.
You can't truely estimate the size, speed or the distance, since mostly you ain't got no reference points/objects - even the "tether footage" is inconclusive regarding these points. Having no athmosphere makes it even more difficult to judge, since we are trained to watch objects in our environment.

Originally posted by squiz
All space junk is already in a orbital path, the earths gravity will not make such adjustments, look up orbital mechanics. I'd like to know why all of those other objects are so well illuminated with the sun on the other side of the earth? I'm sure thier must be an explanation.
You often see incredibly fast objects in these NASA vids, most will say they are meteors but meteors are dark objects until they enter the atmosphere and some are escaping the earths gravity.
It's a UFO, in other words I don't know what it is.

It can easily be dark on the ground in the nadir direction while the sun illuminates the orbiter. It happens twice an orbit, every orbit (entering and exiting the Earth's shadow), and my rough mental calcs are that it should last for several minutes each time.

[edit on 2-8-2007 by disownedsky]

Originally posted by disownedsky
It can easily be dark on the ground in the nadir direction while the sun illuminates the orbiter. It happens twice an orbit, every orbit (entering and exiting the Earth's shadow), and my rough mental calcs are that it should last for several minutes each time.
[edit on 2-8-2007 by disownedsky]

Yeah, your probably correct there, after seeing the sped up version in one of the links above those others appear to be debris floating near the shuttle.
It only adds mystery to the object though, it's obviously not behaving like the rest of the debris.

[edit on 2-8-2007 by squiz]

That last 'object' clearly reduces its speed to a halt, then moves backwards, against its original trajectory. That is very odd indeed.

This can only surely only mean 1 of 3 things:

1. Its man-made.
2. Its a fluke of nature.
3. Its ET-made.

Wow that video is cool. You can clearly see the object turning as the tank goes by.

As far as the OP video and the object in that vid. I dont think there would be a good reason for the object to slow down and take a sudden change in trajectory. The earth doesnt have an extremely large gravitational field in just one point that would cause the object to change course.
As far as an arced trajectory of "space junk" ... huh? That doesnt make sense either.

Originally posted by open mind
I hate to break it to you but it might be spce junk or even the dreaded ice crystals, the curve or 'turn' that you see is symply the earths gravity affecting the objects coarse!

You have just GOT to be kidding!!!



And I thought there was 'intelligent' life here

Originally posted by Alex Krycek
Ok well after page one I was afraid there would be noone in this thread other than the OMG THATS ITS THATS PROOF hardcore believers.

(I try to stay in the middle and as the first really well phrased point about skepticism goes, I too am always very skeptical, but also always purusing these boards and hoping there will someday be that ok, spaceship landed, little green men came out, said hi, everyone saw it, case-closed-aliens-exist-and-aren't-we-dumb-that-we-thought-all-that-space-and-we-were-the-only-ones moment).

When I first saw the object moving right to left, and stopping, I had a WOW moment, for real. It is quite bright, which to me indicated:

1.larger size or,
2. Possibly its own light source or
3. Its quite close to the camera, in which case if its close enough it would appear quite large even tho its quite small.

The problem is, by the end of the video I see the problem with believing this is anything other than ___ (I wont say that because the Op asked me not use that word :p) or other random debris.

Everyone is (rightly so) harping on the fact that it stops and changes direction. This is typically one of the best signs of something that has its own propulsion, and counters what the laws of physics would do to an uncontrolled object of debris.

HOWEVER

The problem with that is that the camera starts moving.

When this object is moving right to left at a good clip, the camera is still.
However the camera then starts to pan, slowly at first and then quickly, down and to the left.
It is at this time that the object in question starts 'slowing down', then 'stops' then starts 'moving' in (you guessed it) the exact opposite direction of the camera movement, up and right.
The movement is exactly parallel in speed, and exactly opposite in direction.

This makes sense, in that objects closer to the camera seem to move much faster in relation to movement of the camera, than would the far-away Earth.

Great find on this video, it had me rather excited for a moment(I too tend to prefer the alien ship in space clips, maybe because you seem to get sharper images in the thinner atmospheres, makes things look more real).

However for me this object is no longer totally unidentified. I don't know what kind of debris it is, but it's debris.

[edit on 1-8-2007 by Alex Krycek]

surely if its a result of panning,why this is the only object out of the many that behaves in this way?,It shows utterly different vectors to them..

And if you claim it is ultra close to camera,the panning you talk about would have removed the said object from the view of the camera very early on.

WTF!!!

I know all those links work, but they're all comming up as "now longer available.

Something's gone wrong in this thread man

Time to contact an understanding mod

Originally posted by Anomic of Nihilism
WTF!!!

I know all those links work, but they're all comming up as "now longer available.

Link works fine for me... I think sometimes it depends on usage and it goes off line for awhile

And I'm just re-confirming..

All links on this side too.. (Might want to check your current settings since we all seem to be able to view and see the videos/links).

BTW, nice links too, great footage too.. Definitely raises ones eyebrows..

JA

Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous
And I'm just re-confirming..

;wow: your ALIVE...

Heard all these nasty rumors....

Now its obvious that is ice... and it turns around because of a blast from the shuttle engines... surely anyone can see that?

I mean many NASA videos show ice doing similar feats in space... changing direction, changing speed, all that good stuff...

And of course NASA astronauts have nothing better to do up there than pull out those hand held infrared cameras to film ice particles doing strange things... and zooming in on them...

Yup just ice... move along nothing to see here folkes