How can you honestly believe in God., page 46

Originally posted by AncientVoid
HIFIGUY i wonder why you didn't reply to my previous post. If you need more time it's ok.

I kept putting it off. The thread was moving quick and Ive noted that when I start to lose my cherub like demeanor, that my ability to form an answer from my heart becomes very difficult.

Originally posted by AncientVoid
First of all you can't say it was all good if you weren't there to witness it or if you don't have any evidence of it.

Hmm...Lets us use a different example. Lets say there is a family. The Mother and Father are both model citizens. They give birth to a son, who ends up becoming a serial killer.

Did the Evil act come from the parents, or the son.?

Im sure, that under the right circumstances, men can be driven to do many horrid things. Its in the practicing of goodwill towards one another and Love, that we can avoid some of the triggering behaviors.

First and formost, Jesus Christ himself said, that only God was Good. His teachings state clearly that all was Good from the beginning, and that only God was perfect.

Originally posted by AncientVoid
Secondly, you also can't say it was good if you can't even define good. And since no one can, saying it was all good is just ignorant.

I read somewhere in the forum, that a statue carved, was something already in the stone, it merely required the undertaking to bring it forth.

There are things that are not known now, that are, that will be, that are good such as a cure for cancer. Everlasting life, and a host of other things that exist, but have not been revealed.

Love is Good. God is Love, and God is Good. That being said, if one doesn’t know God, then how does one understand good? Can I explain love to you? I would be hard pressed to put into words the love that one feels towards their children, parents, spouse or loved ones.

Love. Love is sensitive. Love is caring. Love is kind. Love is patient.
When you practice ultimate love of your fellow man and all Gods creatures, what is good becomes razor clear in your minds eye .hence. the saying:

Good people know what good is...or alternately, Gods people know what good is. But can there be Good without knowing God. Further explanation says yes, for God found righteousness amongst men in history.

In Love, I would never hurt you or any other human being. I would never do things that would offend you or put an undue burden on you. It is in giving, and being selfless, that we learn what is good.

Its not a class. Its not a lesson to be learned, its a way of being that heals a community and a society through heartfelt action and selfless service towards ones fellow man.

Originally posted by AncientVoid
Thirdly it is not logical/impossible for evil/bad to come out of ‘good’ that is if all 'good' is even possible.

Can you burn an ant with a magnifying glass? Why do it at all? Can you not see the misery of the ant? The Evil is in your actions and lack of compassion in the things that we do as men.

In the book of Genesis, regardless of the detail, the there is a story of the first two sons of Adam and Eve. The Brother Cain, kills Abel.

In this story, it was out of Jealousy and resentment, that Cain killed his brother.

When one looks at what is character within a man, Love, anger, happiness, Jealousy, sadness, fear, compassion, etc, these are what make us unique as men.

We have the ability to use these characteristics for good, or less then good.

Think back to when you were a child and someone gave you something, or you perpetrated an act of violence against another child. I know I did. We had rock fights. Heck, I even used a sling. We were playing.
It was only until one of my friends got hit bad, and we knew that it was no longer playing, that the rock fights stopped.

Our childhood is a learning path for what is good, and our parents need to guide us into what is the better choice, and what is the less desirable choice. The difficulty is that some parents think that beating up other people is Good, and thus raise their children that way.

We are men. We error...or in other words sin. We err in judgment as we are not perfect. Jesus comes to show us the way of the perfect man.
Jesus is what is Good.

When you look at his teaching, of Love one another, and think of how the world would be if everyone in unison embraced his teaching, there would be healing in the world. If people abandoned their lust for power, and people abandoned their greed and materialism which they all say is their right, how might the world be?

The Good and the Bad is in every man, because we have the freewill to make a bad choice. The education through family and community in the form of unity the world wide, is the only thing that can save us from ourselves, and somehow I personally dont think mankind is going to get it on his own...its going to come by the revelation and understanding of the Divinity that may seem invisible to some, but is very very real to me.

Sorry for rambling on this...but solitude, introspection, a shedding of ego and materialism. The recognition of those things which you recognize to be motivating factors in the degradation of society. People who done understand or believe there is a life after this one, will not abandon those things because they think this is their only life.

But for a man such as myself, I bring direct testimony to the existence of God, but in doing so, I had to come to some very difficult understandings about my being. I freely do this as I see it as the better path.
That my former arrogance and aggression, materialism and vanity was bad for me, not helpful to my community, and I realized that the problems in the world were only going to get worse if the whole world was like me.

Ask yourself...

How would the whole world be, if the whole world was like me?

Thats the litmus test.

Think about it...

Peace

[edit on 23-12-2007 by HIFIGUY]