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Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by Leyla
i'm sorry... the dark ages were called the dark ages because of the religious suppression of technological, philosophical, and scientific advancement.... not because people weren't allowed to read the bible
and it's quite obvious that certain parts of the bible were made up
sun "stopping" in the sky
story of moses
Why would they make this up? What would be the purpose? That would be cruel and heartless. I would really want to hear your views Madness!
So your saying the Bible is a lie and million of people were deceived? Of all this time?! Come on give me another tall tale!
As Andre said how would they even know about the flood or even the crossing of the Red sea
Originally posted by jakyll
Look for a moment at "pagan" religions.Say,the Greek,Norse & Egyption Gods and Goddesses.Did any of the followers of these faiths force people to believe in them? Would they be damned for eternity if they did not believe in every God and Goddess? Were any of these faiths used as a weapon to oppress people of other cultures?
The answer to all,is No.
16 "I am an Israelite," replied Jesus. "From the day of my birth I saw the walls of Jerusalem, and I heard the weeping of my brothers reduced to slavery and the lamentations of my sisters who were carried away by the pagans.
A portion From Desiderata...
You are a child of the universe,
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
When the term Dark Ages is used by historians today, it is intended to be neutral, namely to express the idea that the events of the period often seem "dark" to us only because of the paucity of historical records compared with later times. The darkness is ours, not theirs. However, since there is no shortage of information on the High and Late Middle Ages, this required a narrowing of the reference to the Early Middle Ages. Late 5th and 6th century Britain, for instance, at the height of the Saxon invasions, might well be numbered among "the darkest of the Dark Ages," with the equivalent of a near-total news blackout in terms of historical records, compared with either the Roman era before or the centuries that followed.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
god is either impotent or uncaring...
that's the problem of evil in a universe governed by such a postulated entity.
either god can't stop the evil or god doesn't want to.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
Originally posted by iamcanadian2
atheism is a belief system like bald is a hair colour
How pray tell is it not?
Your words are in conflict with Jesus Christ himself.
Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.
The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
...when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Initially,this era took on the term “dark” by later onlookers;this was due to the backward ways and practices that seemed to prevail during this time. Future historians used the term “dark” simply to denote the fact that little was known about this period; there was a paucity of written history. Recent discoveries have altered this perception as many new facts about this time have been uncovered.
The Dark Ages was a period of religious struggle. Protestants and Catholics viewed the era from opposing perspectives. Protestants regarded this time as a period of Catholic corruption; they repudiated the ways of the Catholic Church with its papal doctrines and hierarchy. Protestants strove to recreate a pure Christianity,void of those “dark” Catholic ways.
Future historians used the term “dark” simply to denote the fact that little was known about this period; there was a paucity of written history. Recent discoveries have altered this perception as many new facts about this time have been uncovered.
Originally posted by depth om
reply to post by WraothAscendant
Evil, "bad" is a system or a piece of a system that's out of sync, harmony with the whole. So, if you go by that definition, everywhere. Anything that destroys or damages.