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Originally posted by TheDuckster
Regardless, if the bible is 'just a story'.
This 'story' has had an impact on my life.
All semantics and logistics aside.
The "Fairy in the sky", has touched me.
I love the story behind "the fairy in the sky".
Be it a 'story' or 'what-ever'.
For every incongruent and inconsistant novel, therein lies a moral.
If I want to base my assumptions of what life is before me, or what I can provide to life...Who the Hell are YOU...or anyone else to say that what is 'paradise' for ME?
If I find a somewhat 'peace of mind' in this stupid, and hateful world, who is ANYBODY to tell me that what I beleive is WRONG?
Who are YOU to take that from me? Not that I'd let you.
Should YOU ever find something to believe in and not want anyone to take that from you, who am I TO DISPUTE WITH?
Until SCIENCE can TOTALLY refute what my beliefs are, You have no RIGHTS to take away my happiness.
I support science and all that it has to offer. Yet, science doesn't TOTALLY prove everything.
Originally posted by 3_Libras
Originally posted by DaRAGE
Originally posted by 3_Libras
Rightttttttt, but how is existence linked with a man up in the clouds?
My throughts of GOd aren't a Human existing inthe clods, or in heaven, or anything like that. That representation is man-made - aka the bible - "jesus will sit at teh right hand side fo the father, ie god., in the kingdom of heaven". the words" The heavens" has also been used to mean such as the sky.ie. "Look up into the heavens and tell me what you see?"
So heaven they represent god in human form as "god made us in his image", greeting us at teh pearly gates, lol.
But....in the beginning, when the Christinaty "boom" was happening, thats what it was...up in the sky...cos we knew no better. So if God was speaking to whoever wrote that tripe, then surely he gave him the right details?
[edit on 31-7-2007 by 3_Libras]
8 You seek a sign to please your curoisity. You walk the very lowest planes of carnal life and cry, Phenomena! show us a sign and then we will believe. 9 I was not sent to earth to buy up faith as men buy fish and fruit and rubbish in the streets. 10 Men seem to think it quite a favour done to me when they confess their faith in me and in the holy Christ. 11 What does it matter unto me as man if you believe or disbelieve? 12 Faith is not something you can buy with coin; it is not something you can sell for gold
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by HIFIGUY
your statement translates to: how can i ignore reason and allow myself to perpetuate in a delusion? because i can!
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
Were the Deaths of the apostles a Delusion? Each one sent to different areas of the world, and all but one of them dying horrific Deaths. Each holding to their story alone while being separated by great distances.
A delusion you say?
Think about it: Alone,in a distant country, all the apostle had to do to save his own skin was say he lied.
But no. These men spoke the truth to the death.
There is plenty of Historical Voracity to support that these apostles in fact not only lived, but that each of their executions and locations were recorded.
Paul was tortured and then beheaded by the evil Emperor Nero at Rome in A.D. 67. Paul endured a lengthy imprisonment which allowed him to write his many epistles to the Churches he had formed throughout the Roman Empire. These letters, which taught many of the foundational doctrines of Christianity, from a large portion of the New Testament.
Therefore, these men speak and wrote witness about a man named Jesus..not a delusion. And they were willing to die for it.
All of them Died as witness. More then I can say to those that may refute their testimony.
Originally posted by ingeniouslycorrupt
Why is it so hard for you believers to even consider the concept that the universe is a game of chance and things occur at random???