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Originally posted by HooHaa
I most definitely believe in an all powerful God. I grew up with evolution and all the other bunk being taught in public schools being taught as fact.
***It's also taught in most private schools. What evidence do you have that its bunk, the Bible?
I don't believe aliens modified our DNA even if that were the case then we are back to the question of who created the aliens.
***That we can agree on.
There has to be a beginning. Since God transcends both time and space he doesn't have to have a creator because there is no time or cause and effect in his realm. That was created when he created our known universe.
***Who says God transcends both time and space, certainly not the Bible, which merely states that he was present at the beginning. This is a later idea brought forth in the 4th century at about the time of the council of Nicea.
If there was a so called big bang then all information and I do mean all info must have existed in that compressed matter. That includes everything that was and will be. You, I intelligence everything was there in that moment.
***That pretty much is the scientific view of the Big Bang.
Then look at all the order from the atom to the universe, the eco system and the whole shebang. What holds us together? why don't our atoms just fly off into space?
***Quite simply, molecular bonds and gravity.
What is conscience? How are we able to fathom eternity?
***That, my friend, is a question that is still be debated in both religious and scientific circles.
Just far to many questions that science cant explain and evolution just doent make any sense at all.
***The fact that science doesn't know that answers to all questions doesn't mean that the answer is forever unknowable. Prior to the invention of the telescope, the church believed that the earth was the immovable center of the universe and all the planets and starts revolved around it. This was church doctrine that you questioned at the peril of both your earthly body and your "immortal soul". Do you still believe this, of course not. The church was wrong.
Besides man and woman would have to have evolved simultaneously. If one evolved with out the other then poof death of the species.
***Men and women did evolve at the same time, I wasn't aware that anyone was questioning that premise.
Many claim the bible has no scientific fact but those who make such claims obviously haven't read the book. It has been proven to be both historically correct and archeology correct and thats not even the core of the bible.
***The Bible is not scientifically correct and I have read it. The earth is not 6800 years old, but rather about 4.7 Billion. The flood didn't happen, at least not in the way the Bible said it, and is instead a story ripped off from the Epic of Gilgamesh, which predates the Bible. The Bible is, in fact, riddled with scientific and historical errors.
When the dead sea scrolls were found there was less than 3% error from those written 3 thousand years ago and our present book.
***The Dead Sea Scrolls aren't 3000 years old. The oldest has been carbon dated to approximately 335 BC, or about 2300 years old.
Originally posted by jakyll
question for those that believe in god.why do you always see god as a man? if we are made in his/her image wouldn't it make more sence to say that he/she is a hermaphrodite?or even more blasphemous,that god is a woman.might be true.might explain why male's in the womb actually start off as female.hence men having nipples! thats something i read recently.....creation.life.nurture.earth.babies.comfort.love....when you think of these things,do you get images of a man or of a woman?
Originally posted by Equinox99
I understand, however the people who made those wars happen,
or people who attack other religions they are evil.
We were put onto this Earth to have free will, and I will keep
my free will until the day I die.
Let me also tell you something bad about science, science
made guns, nuclear power and other junk we kill each other with.
So if you look at it my way, is that there is good and bad in
every matter, particle and everything out there. Positive/negative,
It's not only Religious people who cause wars, if we had no weapons,
never found oil, gold, silver, and technology, we probably would
not be killing each other as bad as we kill today.
But science is also good because they have found cures for countless of
diseases, and gave us an easier life.
So it does not matter how you see it, there will always be someone there
to see the negative to every positive.
Originally posted by newyorkee
what if god isnt formed yet...and we are deciding what he will be. Our concept of time doesnt apply here without the understanding that linear time is just a perception. What if our conscience mind is forming itself in some infinite paradox created AFTER its inception. What if we are just thinking about our existance like the moment you spend before you microwave beeps and you begin to shovel food into your face. What if the sense of god is that memory before we stood there and pressed 3min high. Really bad example I know, but what if life is a casual memory just running through the old cosmic synapses and god is a blurry memory you think happened but arent really sure. What if he was what we are now. Living, i.e life. the living. The act of making the universe changed him. Made him subject to linear time by the eyes of creation who he is still very much a part of. Like he is what will be formed in the big crunch, metaphorically speaking. He transformed into creation and creation will transform into him.
Originally posted by Watchful1
Here is what God is...
Everything in every posibility no matter what...
Everything you see and that is, is God.
I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.