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Originally posted by Rockpuck
The Brits are occupants of Ireland, the Island is not theirs, it is the Irish, and for centuries the Brits have suppressed the Irish, countless atrocities occurred over this timespan, countless, from inflicted famines, suppression by totalitarian kings, the list is extensive, North Ireland is apart of the Island, originally Irish occupied by people from the isle of Britain they claim the lands for them selves.. the Irish nationalist want their land back, a perfectly natural claim that cannot be denied by anyone .. except Brits for the reasons listed above....
Originally posted by Now_Then
seeing as your location is listed as USA (somewhere) would you consider upping and leaving because others occupied that land before? I very much doubt it, a few yheah, but everyone else and their dog?? nope.
Who do you think Brits are? don't really want to bring the whole "what, you mean there are different types of Muslims - and they don't get along, why was I not informed" issue up, but like your nation, we are a mongrel race, they don't call us Anglo Saxons for nothing
When you say the people of Ireland were there before please remember the people of Scotland, Wales, Cornwall Hell most places were also here before. Our capital city, London is a roman name. Londinium.
So we (the Brits) are occupying Ireland in the same way you occupy err lets say Manhattan island - give it back, or get of your high horse.
Edit to add: The high horse thing is a sweeping comment to all the US, sorry but I feel it's deserved. (you're still my favorite 'other' country ATM, I'm shallow like that, must be all the TV sent over )
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Originally posted by pepsi78
Why don't the english give back irland their land?