Them letting it happen is just as bad.

1. Take the fox news link
2. Change the "161962" to "161963"
3. That article is dated July 8, 2005

It is very likely that article numbers are sequential.
Hence, if article "161963" was released 07/08/05, it is very likely this article regarding Aviv's statement was released before or on 07/08/05.

I do think an attack of some sought will eventually happen.
I don't think this article should be used to support the idea that counterterrorism intelligence reveals it may happen in the next 90 days.

In any case, the man's statement about general preparedness won't harm anyone, it may however, actually save a life.

With all of the overlapping and ongoing predictions of a terrorist
attack, someone's prediction will be correct eventually..we all
know that.

Unless it's a nuclear attack in a large population center, more
USA residents will be killed in any given year by their fellow citizens..
(drunk drivers, muggers, family incidents, gangs, etc.).

The threat of terrorism is good for sensational headlines, but the
numbers say that we should be more concerned that we, or our
loved ones, may be killed in some other way. Take good care
of yourselves and your families day-to-day everyone. -cwm

I also like how the guy released a book in 2004 about terrorism preparedness. it is like inventing a water maker and then convincing people that the clouds are going to disappear for good.

Its is the same reason I love Donald Rumsfeld. He starts a war and then gets fired for mishandling it. Now he is off shopping for publishers to see who will give him the most money for his memoirs on the Iraq (not even done yet) war.

well, if he is so sure, and he has contacts ...

then why can't it be stopped?

is he not a terrorist himself if he spreads fear and doesn't give the information to prevent the attacks?

oh wait, that would be the responsible thing to do ... maybe he is neutral and doesn't want to get involved.

Wait, if you aren't with us, you are against us.

So him not saying where the cells are, he is against us and he is a terrorist ... or he doesn't know and it is just an educated guess.



The thing is ... live you life, free of fear. What will happen, will. Do your best to do what you can, but don't give up your life in place of hiding and preparation for something that may or may not be real. There is a threat, but it is for you to decide where and who the real threat is coming from with open eyes and minds.

His predictions are as good as anyone's ... there plenty of educated people on this site, but they would be flamed for making a statement of guess work sounding like news. If they have direct information on cells, then those cells should be proven and then detained.

I thank the o.p. for posting it ... no problem with that ... but to give one man's guess any more weight than another human's ... is silly. Of course, in the case of direct knowledge, which there should be much stronger action than only a public announcement. I guess if they are taking action against the cells, it couldn't be blasted over the news ... but then also, should even that be put on the news until after those individuals are captured?

What a thin line it all is between truth, responsibility, and deception and fear mongering.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
The only attack that could be Al-CIAda in 5-8 cities simultaniously is their plan American Hiroshima which is the detonation of nukes in many cities or at the very least dirty bombs.

For the cities, from their documents, New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles. It's supposed to be a pay off for the Iraqis and Afghans killed because of the wars, a 1-1 kill ratio, not like the average american 10000-1 kill ratio. (not mean, just a fact, see Vietnam, Iraq, ect..) Still, it won't be Al-Qaeda, it will be the government again, and Bush according to PDD51, will be dictator.

Will it happen? I hope not, the people are waking up and the NWO is going down in a somewhat peaceful manner... but if Ron Paul is nominated or elected... I guess they would do it or at least kill him then put one of their puppets in control.

They could do it, the economy is on the edge, people are angry at the congress and the president, people love Ron Paul, the mainstream medias have low ratings, another extension of the US debt will be asked before the end of the year, Iran is continuing, Iraq is worse and worse... well, we have a bright future.

[edit on 30-7-2007 by Vitchilo]

That is a pretty pessimistic view, kind of over the top I think. The terrorist attacks could take any form.

If Aviv was the only source warning of an attack it may be easier to dismiss it. The fact of the matter is there are numerous sources that are saying the same thing. I was watching a show on the military channel the other night and they were discussing the increased "chatter" going on right now.

If you are looking for proof it isn't there. If someone was in a position to prove it there would have been many arrests by now.

I do believe that all of the sources are probably right. I would actually be suprised if we didn't see some major event in the US this summer

I think most of us believe it's not so much if but when. The only thing we can do is live our daily lives the way we always have and hope that we are able to get good enough intel to track it down and stop it. If we do stop this one the threat isn't over. This is something we are going to have to live with for a long time.

[edit on 31-7-2007 by duster]

posted by FreeThinkerIdealist
is he not a terrorist himself if he spreads fear and doesn't give the information to prevent the attacks?

Or maybe he can't stop the terrorists. Maybe he already did the same thing way back in 2005 when he made the same claim, and then was able to throw a wrench into their operations. Then, the terrorists would make more preparations to secure their plot better. When 90 days or less comes up before their plan, they let their contacts know, and one of those contacts could tell Aviv. So, there is a way that both of his claims were true, but one just got stopped.

Originally posted by Gools
Since we're into predictions, I'll make one too.

In 90 days we'll be able to discount this Juval Aviv person as any kind of accurate or precise source of intelligence information.
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I second that. "Terrorist" attacks may very well happen in the U.S., but they will be planned and propogated by the true terrorists -- the NWO. It was also bring about potential presidential assasination, martial law and restriction of personal liberties, a major revolution or civil war, nuclear detonation(s) on American soil, and eventually lead to WWIII. Especially here in the U.S., the masses have forgotten the Constitution -- but they will remember it during the upcoming civil war. And World War 3 is not a question of IF, it's a question of WHEN. If you doubt that, look at the course of history over the past century. Something major has to happen in order to get the global population to stop acting like greedy, materialistic, uncompassionate children. It won't happen simply by peace talks; it never has in the past. After half of the world is killed in the next major world war, people will be too busy trying to find food and water to fight over past political problems.

[edit on 7/31/2007 by pjslug]

BTW Advisor, how many terrorist exercises have several U.S. agencies performed? Does that mean there are no terrorist trying to attack us? Do those exercises make less real the fact that we have been attacked in the past by terrorist and they wish to continue attacking us?

With all due respect, I have read through some of this fellows website and it would not surprise me in the least, if he was still receiving his monthly ck. from his former employer.
It would seem that he has an axe to grind with Islam. I don't agree with many of his so called informed opinions. The Patriot Act for one. His idea which involves all Americans keeping a sharp eye out for the suspect.....whatever. His Ideas of giving up freedom for security.
Keep in mind that I view all of these scare tactics with a very jaundice eye. This comes from looking at who had the most to gain with the advent of 9/11. Certainly no one who over night, became the subject of our wrath. IE. " The axes of EEEVVIILLL" The folks who had and still have the most to gain.........like it or not, are Israel and the US government.
I also don't understand this mantra of " Not if, but when " I certainly had nothing to do with instilling this constant state of fear into the American people. I believe it is terrorism by definition and the perpertrators would be the spoon fed media , our government and folks of his ilk. The entire concept of a war on global terrorism is stupid beyond belief.

I don't see what that link has to do with what I said.

I have no problem with that link.

I am 9/10 trying to open people up and not see it as black/white, right/wrong, or countering someone in a civil way that has become uncivil to someone else in my posts ... I am willing to argue both sides regardless of my own point of view. I am very open-minded, and think nearly anything is possible. This is why if you were implying that link to mean something on an indirect level, I cannot see where you are coming from, please explain.

I asked, if he(Aviv) has knowledge ... then why can't it be stopped. He seems to know more than ... a strike will happen. he knows a time frame, a general amount of targets, and even the fact to implicate a rural town.

So ... how many cells have been sitting on their hands prior to 9/11? Surely you are not saying that they have been coming in and not been noticed since then? I don't see the same threat as a lot do, and don't buy the official story that our fighting over there has stopped terrorism over here ... in fact, to me, that is counter-intuitive. I would think our activities over there would have magnified the problems here.

I just want some hypothetical answers to hypothetical questions ... from any point of view ... why is it that implies I either have not read the thread, the o.p., or am biased/taking shots? (which is what the linked thread talks about)

I try to discuss things, and get people to accept that most things are probable, and don't think in the clear cut lines we are taught (including life needs oxygen, reptilians can exist -which I personally don't believe, and so on).

Sorry for any confusion my other post presented, hope this clears it up some, if not, so be it.

Originally posted by johnsky
Of course this guy wants you to be afraid, the more insecure you feel, the more job security he has.

The more fear a populace has, the easier they are to control.

I thought that was common knowledge.

Luckily I live in Scotland, East Kilbride to be exact, near Glasgow. Here we don't need security firms to protect ourselves from terrorists. If anybody starts trouble here we'll do what John Smeaton did and kick their heads in....even when they're on fire!

Originally posted by TruthWithin


Am I missing something.

He said this in 2005?

I would say no actually, a very good find. almost two years to the date and if you compare the source article for the thread and WND article dated in 2005 they are vitually word for word in the first paragraphs.

Looking aroud to see if I can spot Chicken Little in the in the area now.

Juval: Is he real? Or is it really Cheney's alter ego?

Look, they're playing with our heads, but not entirely. On the one hand THERE WILL BE an attack, you can count on it. On the OTHER HAND, the attack will come from HERE and within here, most likely.

On the third hand, I wouldnt be surprised if the attack comes from overseas as predicted because of our actions, nations are ploting and planning our demise.

In each of the three scenarios i pointed out, the culprit and enabler will be the USA government without a doubt. They instigate, stirr the couldron, and eventually, yes, yes, yes, something will happen.

When we all stand amidst the rubble, we will all be confused. We wont really know who did it...but one thing is for sure....Bush & Cheney ASKED for it

This government isnt scared, they want it to happen- wether they are plotting it or whether they know there is a planned attack by outside forces. They cant wait. An attack = NWO, Police state, and perhaps even Bush's Dictatorship.
Dictatorship impossible? I beg to differ. Bush's friends, the Muslim terrorists will see to it that he gets what he wants.

It speaks volumes about the psychic condition of our nation that just the suggestion of another attack sends grown men and women into fits of fear and paranoia.... AND it speaks even more about the people (such as the shadow people in this administration, and their allies such as Muaddib) who seem to take delight in spreading the fear, even when its over 2 years old.

I do not trust the word of either, even when they are right; they claim no agenda other than love of country... maybe so but it is still bull hooey. Spreading fear is nothing more than fear mongering and when it is used like the Republicans use it, to shore up their failing grip on power it is nothing less than obscene.

Originally posted by FreeThinkerIdealist

I don't see what that link has to do with what I said.

I asked, if he(Aviv) has knowledge ... then why can't it be stopped. He seems to know more than ... a strike will happen. he knows a time frame, a general amount of targets, and even the fact to implicate a rural town.

I just want some hypothetical answers to hypothetical questions ... from any point of view ... why is it that implies I either have not read the thread, the o.p., or am

My apologies . I was simply making a joke.

The joke being that you asked

if he(Aviv) has knowledge ... then why can't it be stopped

AFTER I had posted the information saying that Aviv said these things to Fox News TWO YEARS AGO.

He clearly does not have accurate information as it has been well past 90 days since he said this WHILE PROMOTING HIS BOOK on how to protect you and your family from terrorism.

It has never been a question IF there would be another terrorist attack here in the U.S., more like WHEN. I have read several decent articles
saying the time is near, and I tend to agree with that assessment. I have expected a nuclear terrorist attack somewhere in the world for ten years or longer. I am only amazed that it hasn't happened yet. Since Al Qaeda is so fond of symbolic days, I'd guess that 9-11-07 is a very possible attack date. I truly hope I'm wrong.

Its gonna happen sooner or later, but not for the reasons listed, Becuz if you call a dog a cat enuff times and treat it such, its gonna meow.


You say we are gonna have these attacks, sooner or later yer gonna sway someone to act apon that, being they think its a counter act, a time to get crazy , or just a ok their doing it so Will I now, Its bound to go forth.

But in relation to this story, I have seen a internet dialog of a al-CIAda and a Al- Jazzeer* member talking / interviewing, and the one guy starting talking about the seven nuke devices in seven cities, I thought it was bunk, and it was that was about 2002 2003 an now we hear this? interesting.

what 7 major cities would hurt the most to have disabled?

Sounds like Jericho! Damn, can't wait for the next series!

I don't think Terrorists would get enough luck to simultaneously nuke 7 or so cities. Maybe someone will help them, who knows.