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Also, if you had a periodic large body that swooped in through the system, wouldn't it tend to prevent really long-term stabilities? For example, I'd think all the tidally locked bodies you see would tend to be thrown off lock if a brown dwarf regularly plunged through the system
So this thing is heading right for us and gonna get to us in 2012?
There's always the small issue of how short period comets get dislodged from their places in the Oort cloud but perhaps it's just natural jostling by all the chunks of matter out there that causes it.
Okay, so if this is correct, our sun moves at around half a million miles an hour. That means it's moving around 25 times faster than our manmade probes do. So basically, the ground that the Voyager probes have covered thus far, the Sun can do it in less than a year.
Dandy. Now, I think the Voyager probes have covered around 7 billion miles of ground. That means in the 5 years it takes for 2012 to come, another star can zip in here from some 35 billion miles away? That's almost 8 times the distance from the Sun to Pluto!
(the brown dwarf) has already been reported as discovered
I have trouble believing that "the government" would be able to cover up something that would be readily apparent to any chucklehead with a telescope and a basic grasp of astronomy.
I don't think any chucklehead with a normal telescope would be able to detect this with any certainty just yet, given it's angle of incline
Originally posted by Mogget
That is why all of this talk about a brown dwarf or large planet on a 3600 year orbit that takes it through the asteroid belt is absolute nonsense. We would have ample evidence of its last passage through the inner Solar System. The fact that no such evidence exists should be enough to convince everyone, but sadly there are far too many people who simply refuse to believe the bleedin' obvious.
Astronomers have discovered 18 planet-like objects, drifting through space in a part of the constellation of Orion. If they are planets, these "free floaters" will pose a challenge to theories about how planets form. "The formation of young, free-floating, planetary-mass objects like these are difficult to explain”, said Maria Rosa Zapatero Osorio, of the Instituto de Astrofísica de Canarias, in Tenerife, Spain.
Using visible and infrared light-detecting sensors on telescopes in Spain, the Canary Islands, and Hawaii, they found 18 objects whose relatively dim, reddish light suggested they could be planetary.
news.bbc.co.uk...
Originally posted by zvezdar
If it is free floating, and not in a periodic orbit, how can its interaction with the solar system be "predicted" by a supposed early text?
Originally posted by mikesingh
A free floater doesn't mean it's moving around like an autumn leaf in the evening breeze. It would be moving in one particular direction forever, until acted upon by an external force.
Now what if the ancients or whoever, had received this knowledge from an ET species who were well aware of a free floater heading toward the Solar System? Extremely far fetched but not impossible! Food for thought, what?
Cheers!
Originally posted by zvezdar
Agreed that a free floating object will travel in a particular direction until acted upon. So with that in agreement:
1) You are talking about a race that can project the exact movement of an object through space for millenia. This means, basically, being able to project the course of every object in the way of said object for many trillions of miles. You are talking about one hell of an advanced race
2) Given these beings were so advanced, why would they give that knowledge to a handful of our relatively primitive ancient people if they wanted to save us?
If you were that advanced, wouldnt you build some kind of device that would stand the test of time and point out the impending disaster?
Originally posted by mikesingh
Save us? Why on Earth would they think of doing that? Are we that important in their scheme of things? Probably not!
No! Why the heck should I? I would think that the Earth is an unimportant, unremarkable outpost at the edge of the galaxy with nothing much to write home about! I'd be having more pressing engagements.
And talking of advanced civilizations, have you read/heard of Prof Michio Kaku? He proposes that there are Type 4 (and beyond) civilizations out there with technology that we'd consider as pure magic. We're not even a fraction of Type I as yet! A long long way still to go, unless we blow ourselves apart with nukes OR get clobbered by a free floating planet!!!
Cheers!
Originally posted by parry noid
Hmmm maybe Im wrong but I thought stars didn't move in any direction.... Only turnaround....
Originally posted by RuneSpider
reply to post by mikesingh
Everytime your theory is shot down, you come up with a new one, but claim it's the original theory. What's your stake in this?
Originally posted by RuneSpider
reply to post by mikesingh
Someone knocked out the brown dwarf idea, you came up with a rogue planet. Someone challenged it, you said they travel in a straight line. Someone said, wait, that doesn't make sense. You said it was aliens. Someone challenged that, and I'm waiting for a good reply to that challenge. Apparently alines warned us.... but they didn't care about us anyway, right?