Morton Devonshire - 9/11 Disinfo?, page
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Topic started on 28-7-2007 @ 10:30 AM by uknumpty
The folks at prisonplanet.com have brought to light the works of one Morton Devonshire who they accuse of burying "9/11 truth" information pages from Wikipedia.

prisonplanet.com v Morton Devonshire

They've begun a campaign to alert Wikipedia of his actions and their claimed, obvious bias. They are asking people to email Wikipedia to complain and also asking people to help replace the pages that Devonshire and his "Counter Propaganda Unit" have buried.

They claim this is important because for wikipedia is the often first port of entry for people questioning the events of 9/11.


[Mod Edit: Title edit for clarification - Jak]

[edit on 14/8/07 by JAK]


reply posted on 14-8-2007 @ 01:19 AM by Morton_devonshire
If Google didn't index Wikipedia pages and list them first, Wikipedia would just be a playground for the terminally bored. Nonetheless, Google does what it does, and that makes Wikipedia somewhat important, and therefore a place that propagandists use to try to promote their pet theories.

Fortunately, Wikipedia has rules against using the encyclopedia as a soapbox. That's why your conspiracy theory articles get deleted, because it's just made up garbage supported by the thinnest of citations, almost exclusively to citations to the blogosphere or to conspiracy advocacy sites like Prisonplanet.com. Wikipedia requires citation to reputable sources, and the neutral presentation of verifiable facts. Since 9/11 conspiracy theories and articles about these theories cannot be supported by reputable objective sources, the articles violate Wikipedia rules, and thus merit deletion. So much for DisInfoWars -- the articles just violate Wikipedia rules. It's as simple as that.

Lastly, shame on all of you for dishonoring the memory of the over 3,000 people killed by our enemies, by trying to capitalize on the tragedy for personal profit. Shame on all of you for making up wild conspiracy theories, then trying to hawk those ideas by videotape, books, and paid seminars to the weak-minded. And lastly, shame on all of you for believing that the good people who serve us in the intelligence agencies and in uniform would be complicit in such plots -- those people swore allegiance to the Constitution, and would happily disobey the command of any manipulative leader who sought to harm our people. If you don't understand that, then you have no clue what being an American is all about.



reply posted on 14-8-2007 @ 06:28 AM by gottago
Originally posted by Morton_devonshire
Lastly, shame on all of you for dishonoring the memory of the over 3,000 people killed by our enemies, by trying to capitalize on the tragedy for personal profit. Shame on all of you for making up wild conspiracy theories, then trying to hawk those ideas by videotape, books, and paid seminars to the weak-minded. And lastly, shame on all of you for believing that the good people who serve us in the intelligence agencies and in uniform would be complicit in such plots -- those people swore allegiance to the Constitution, and would happily disobey the command of any manipulative leader who sought to harm our people. If you don't understand that, then you have no clue what being an American is all about.


Welcome to ATS.

Okay, now that that's out of the way, please do not come here and spout "shame, shame, shame on you" in such a holier-than-thou way. It is intellectually repugnant and appeals to the basest instincts and emotions and is no decent argument about the true subject at hand.

And believe me this is not a unique tactic, it pops up here over and over again.

Now, let's look at your contentions:

The first one, that the members of this board are dishonoring the dead of 9/11. I would respond that seeking the truth of those events, and with that truth, finally bringing the perpetrators to justice, does great honor to those who died. I have seen little attempt on the part of the gov't to prosecute those it claimed led the attacks, though it did launch a staggering strategic blunder in Iraq--which had nothing to do with 9/11 and has destroyed that nation and killed and maimed tens of thousands of our soldiers--but nonetheless justified it with false linkages to those events. Is this honoring the 9/11 dead? And if the official story is true, and gov't incompetence allowed the events to unfold, as the 9/11 Commission claims, then who in our gov't has ever been held accountable for that criminal negligence? Who, other than the whistleblowers, has ever been punished for 9/11?

Second, the members of this board are "trying to capitalize on the tragedy for personal profit." This is ridiculous on its face, and merits no further discussion. Simply highlighting it is enough to show it is pure hyperbole.

Next, you say that we are spinning "wild conspiracy theories" and are profiting off them. The official story of 9/11 is a "wild conspiracy theory." 19 fundamentalist Arab terrorists (one, Atta, known to enjoy brothels and cocaine) and a mastermind in an Afghan cave (a creature created by the CIA to terrorize the Russians in Afghanistan) managed to lay low our many layers of security, military and civilian, and to wreak such unprecedented havoc, using what? Box cutters?

That is the very definition of a "wild conspiracy theory."

The official NIST explanation of the collapse of the 2 WTC towers is an embarrassment to science, and as yet, nearly six years later, no explanation at all has been given for the collapse of WTC 7.

Lastly, let's take a look at some of the actions of "those good people in our intelligence services." They ran heroin to pay for the secret war in Laos, cocaine to pay for the secret wars in Nicaragua and El Salvador, concocted Operation Northwoods, the USS Liberty incident, the gulf of Tonkin, and have overthrown foreign governments for decades--the most damning of all being Iran; thanks to FDR's son, we have the mess we have there today. And I won't even get started on the treason of selling arms to our enemies--to Iran, to hold the hostages until after the 1980 presidential election. You know--GHW Bush's secret trip to Paris, and the cake and the bible and the 80+ billions of arms transited through Israel and Turkey.

Such "good people," all.

So please, do not wrap yourself either in the flag or in the burial shrouds of the victims of 9/11; to do so stains them both.
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