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Where are the WMDs then?

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posted on Aug, 5 2007 @ 09:56 PM
BTW... Lets not forget that even Putin and the Russian intelligence services were saying that Saddam was planning terrorist attacks on U.S. soil...and as per Putin's own words he and the Russian intelligence services were giving information to the U.S. since 9/11 and up to the beginning of the war that Saddam had plans to make terrorist attacks on U.S. soil...

Russia 'warned U.S. about Saddam'
Friday, June 18, 2004 Posted: 1646 GMT (0046 HKT)

MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Russian intelligence services warned Washington several times that Saddam Hussein's regime planned terrorist attacks against the United States, President Vladimir Putin has said.
"I can confirm that after the events of September 11, 2001, and up to the military operation in Iraq, Russian special services and Russian intelligence several times received ... information that official organs of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist acts on the territory of the United States and beyond its borders, at U.S. military and civilian locations," Putin said.

He said the information was given to U.S. intelligence officers and that U.S. President George W. Bush expressed his gratitude to a top Russian intelligence official.

But hey, it was only the current administration which made those claims huh?....

Please don't talk about "people being naive"....and much less "sheeple",

posted on Aug, 5 2007 @ 10:27 PM

Originally posted by 11Bravo
So Muadib let me get this straight.
You are using empty shells as proof that there was something in the shell?
Then, to back that up, you say 'Yeah, and everybody said he had WMD so he must have.'
Is that your stance?

My stance is that "the whole world believed SAddam had WMD"....

But many people even after they are shown the contrary keep claiming that "only the U.S. made those claims"....

BTW, i am not using "empty shells only"... If you want to find out what my stance has been, and all the information some other members and myself have been giving out since 2004, then do a search in the forums.

I am tired of having to search over and over again for someone else, but I am also tired of the claims that some make which are not true in the least, and those claims are being made just because those same people have a political agenda, and want to dwell constantly in a hate bashing fest against the U.S.

[edit on 5-8-2007 by Muaddib]

posted on Aug, 5 2007 @ 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
All the inspectors say this, the UN Says this, even Bush has said no wmd's existed.

So why are you trying to continue this witch hunt when its obvious enough for your LEADER to admit the witch doesnt exist?

What president Bush has said is that no stockpiles of wmd have been found, but there is more to this than meets the eye...

Why was a former U.S. official fired when he said he had proof that Russian forces were behind the evanecesce of the Iraqi wmd?

Where are the IAEA's missing explosives, along with other elements of Saddam's WMD program? It seems that the Russians might know:

Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.

John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said in an interview that he believes the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, "almost certainly" removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa facility, south of Baghdad.

"The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole series of military units," Mr. Shaw said. "Their main job was to shred all evidence of any of the contractual arrangements they had with the Iraqis. The others were transportation units."
The Russian arms-removal program was initiated after Yevgeny Primakov, the former Russian intelligence chief, could not convince Saddam to give in to U.S. and Western demands, this official said.

A small portion of Iraq's 650,000 tons to 1 million tons of conventional arms that were found after the war were looted after the U.S.-led invasion, Mr. Shaw said. Russia was Iraq's largest foreign supplier of weaponry, he said.

Why did the report which came out explaining why he was fired say that he was fired because he was not supposed to go above his higher ups concerning the Russian involvement in the wmd?

John Shaw was fired by the Defense Department for exceeding his authority. His claims were not denied, instead satellite images showed extensive large-vehicle traffic crossing the Syrian border prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom.

(You have to scroll down almost to the end to find this)

Anyways, then there were many allegations against Shaw which surfaced after he had made these statements about Russia being behind the evanecesce of iraq's wmd...

Then, we have Iraqi oifficials, such as Sada, the second in command of the Iraqi Air force, who also has said wmd were taken out of Iraq by planes, and this is what he saw.

Then, we also have the fact that several former Russian officers who defected to the west were stating that the Iraqi wmd would be moved, hidden, and in some cases destroyed by Russian forces so that Russia could not be implicated.

Then, we also have the facts that Russia gave U.S. troop movements to the Iraqi regime through the Russian embassador to Iraq.

Who is to forget the former Russian high ranking officers who were given medals by Saddam's regime right before the war started, and they returned to Russia with medals and money from whatever deals they had made with Saddam...

But hey, it was all lies right?....

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posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 06:54 PM

Originally posted by Muaddib
But hey, it was all lies right?....

Yes. Havent you realized that yet?

posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Dan5647
So we went into Iraq in 2003 and claimed there were WMDs there.

Jezzus Christ, give it a rest. When i seen this topic I had to click on it to see if it was at least 2 years old but no its only a couple of weeks old.
Youre making a thread about something that has been covered very extensively on here, and everywhere else.
Youre beating a dead horse and you know it.. bitch at me all you want, i could care less because this will be my first and last post on this bygone topic.

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