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Help me create a proper Alien!

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posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 08:34 PM
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!!! I've been asked to keep this on a scientific tone rather than an art project. What I am after is help from people who have actually seen one of these beings to reconstruct it as accurately as possible.

I'm interested in details about skin, wrinkles, shape of jaw etc.. There may be more than one opinion on that so I'm sure it won't match everyones expectations but I could get closer than others I've seen. Don't be afraid to copy the image and draw all over it. In fact that is probably the best way to help.

This won't be fast as I don't have a great deal of time most days. Just posting here happens between phone calls and meetings but this requires more attention so be patient. Please U2U me if you have questions pertaining to the art side of things.!!!



Original Message Below -
I started modeling a Gray today for fun. I thought it might be more fun to include ATS in the project.

I would like those who claim to have seen one of these fellows to guide my hand. I don't have a lot of time to devote and since it is Summer in Alaska my weekends are spent on outdoor activities. Don't expect this to go quickly.

I'm starting with this quick basic head and when its correct by consensus I'll move on to the body. I plan on doing this to the level of small skin details and in the end rendering a complete scene.

Any suggestions?

**** Please consider any original images posted by me to be under Copyright. Use them for personal use or postings with credits but nothing commercial. Thanks *****




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posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 08:49 PM
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Nice model! Which program did you use? I have 3DS Max.



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 08:53 PM
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A base model from Silo. Now I've started some detail in ZBrush3. I also use Lightwave. I'll do most everything in ZB3 as I love the freedom it gives to add details. The new polypainting feature is awesome



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:00 PM
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I wish i could do things like that with p.c. programs.I am computer illiterate.
If i could just pick one fault (excellent work though) that your alien has an adams apple.Never seen an alien so i dont know if they have one or not.
Obviously someone who has will let you know.



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by tracey ace

If i could just pick one fault (excellent work though) that your alien has an adams apple.Never seen an alien so i dont know if they have one


You and me both. I started with a standard human head, so the adams apple was already there and I wondered the same thing. Hopefully those who have seen one will wander in here eventually.



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:04 PM
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It looks pretty good, I like how you molded it. I just ordered ZB3, read some good reviews about it. Maybe I can get some pointers from you
... so what file format did you use to import it into Zbrush?



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:05 PM
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Wow! Thanks!
I've been trying out different programs and I must say, 3d modeling is without a doubt the most challenging kind of art work I've ever encountered in terms of learning how to operate those programs. It's slow going but worth the time spent working in them! I've still got a long way to go.

I love your model! Very relalistic in it's details and looking forward to seeing how this work progresses! Thanks for sharing!



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:09 PM
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I'm not really trying to push ZBrush3 or any program. I'll send a U2U.



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by Palasheea

I love your model! Very relalistic in it's details and looking forward to seeing how this work progresses! Thanks for sharing!


Thanks so much. I'm going to take this to the level of skin pores and wrinkles. I just need some eye witnesses to guide me.

Forgot to say - The learning curve is a real pain. I've been an artist all my life and having to learn this learning intensive software does remove some of the fun.


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posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:17 PM
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Thanks for information -- and believe me! I know you put a lot of time and effort into creating this model. Keep up the good work!



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:21 PM
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Also... you're on the right track. Throughout my life I've had my own 'experiences' via lucid dreams and I'm also an ITC experimenter where I have gotten many images of beings ... some look like greys but they seem to have a unique skin texture that's somewhere between amphibian and reptilian -- if that makes sense.



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:26 PM
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Palasheea,

Thats the kind of input I'm after. Thanks



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:30 PM
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You're welcome but too bad this thread has been switched over to this current forum from the Alien and UFO one because here you might miss out on other experiencer's descriptions of these beings... Maybe you should request that they move it back there. Just my .02 worth.



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 09:36 PM
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I just made the same argument. I have not gotten an answer yet from the Mod.



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 10:02 PM
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Ok, it's moved back from the BTS art forum. We just need to see a little less "how to art" conversation and more alien anatomy discussion from this point forward.

Thanks everyone....



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 10:21 PM
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Thank you and as I said above please honor the request. Any other questions U2U me but I'm not advanced enough to teach and I don't want to push any software here as that is not my intention. Thanks in advance to anyone who adds their knowledge to my reconstruction.

I started this with the short Gray in mind. Where I am now is a composite of drawings and other representations I've found on the web. I want details right down to the pores of the skin and wrinkles. I'm betting the adams apple, as was mentioned above, is the first thing to go.



posted on Jul, 26 2007 @ 10:38 PM
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Hey there, Blaine...

You probably have seen some of these, but here's my collection of Grays: I guess you also know that there are reports of quite a few species of not only Aliens in general, but of the Gray variety in particular - dozens if not more. So it may be hard to 'create' just one that fits all subspecies. Like trying to 'create and render' a "human", would you choose an Aborigine from Australia, a Tibetan Monk, a Norwegian Viking, an African Bushman? You get the drift...

Anyway - I'm looking forward to viewing your amalgamation - whichever sub specie Gray features you select to include...



Good luck...



posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 12:33 PM
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Outrageo,

I see a couple of new ones in there and one I followed the persons modeling. I can use the collage as a backdrop for ideas. Thanks for putting it together


I hope I can attract a witness or two to participate.



posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 06:31 PM
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hahaha i like the hillary grey in there. that was awesome!

the rendering looks amazing, and i can't wait to see how it works out. i used to work with 3ds and made all sorts of amazing stuff. i could only imagine the fun you're having with the programs you're running now. great work!

p.s. it's too hot today for me to capitalize letters haha



-droops



posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 08:25 PM
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Well, I've not seen one, but based on description, I've thought up a basic biology that fits most cards and biologically could make sense. Everything from facial features, bone structure, fingers and hands.

Though it's only what I believe is a possible-and likely- way for them to look like, according to abductee's accounts that I believe may be genuine.



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