CARET/Drones Debunked? – A “viral” fantasy, page 3

The 'meme' construct is a useful one in a number of contexts as you've noted.

I've been trying to see if there's any way that a meme and a construct are different. Or is a meme a subset of all constructs? I'm using construct in the George Kelly sense who created the role rep grid which sorts elements based on constructs.

And, no more than 26 constructs were ever found to be used by any culture. Most individuals use less than 15 constructs in their daily lives and only a handful of those are of primary import.

A great website for sorting relationships with the grid--resulting in some powerful information--is available here:

tiger.cpsc.ucalgary.ca...

A major super-ordinate construct in most cultures is GOOD/EVIL.

Guess I should define construct . . . at least in terms of humans and psychology a la George Kelly . . .

"A personal construct is a bipolar collection of concepts, thought patterns, priorities and meanings used by an individual in the ways he/she anticipates events and objects--in the ways he/she construes his/her world. Such processes are viewed by Kelly (1955) as channelizing or pathway building psychologically." from my own PhD Dissertation as is the following:

A Construct System is an ordered set of constructs collected by a person over time and experience to be used in anticipating events.

Construing--a thought process of organizing events, situations, objects and/or people into a more or less connected system of priorities, values and meanings.

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I think the latter definition may clue folks in as to why I see a lot of similarity with memes.

Merriam-Webster asserts re meme:

Function: noun Etymology: alteration of mimeme, from mim- (as in mimesis) + -eme Date: 1976

: an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture

and

Main Entry: mi·me·sis Function: noun Etymology: Late Latin, from Greek mimēsis, from mimeisthai Date: 1550

: imitation, mimicry

So, I again arrive at the conclusion that a meme is a subset of all constructs . . . what would the other pole of meme be? Non-meme, of course! LOL.

Putting the two definitions closer together:

Construing--a thought process of organizing events, situations, objects and/or people into a more or less connected system of priorities, values and meanings.

meme: : an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture

It seems clear to me . . . that for a meme or evidently more commonly--a set of memes, a constellation of memes to have sufficient impact, influence to be spread from person to person within a culture, it MUST organize events, situations, objects and/or people into a more or less connected system of priorities, values and meanings. Otherwise, no one would bother paying any attention to such memes, much less passing them on as something of value, meaningful or even merely 'clever' and interesting.

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Moving along to the Chad Drone issue . . . phenomena . . .

Is the phenomena 'nothing' more than an effort to infect the global culture with a particular set of memes? A reasonable postulation. If so, . . .

1. What are the specific memes that the originators seek to infect the global culture with?

2. What would the constellation, cluster, structure of the collection of memes look like?

3. Perhaps more to the point . . . What is the GOAL of such an infection, injection of said memes?

4. What is the criteria for measuring whether said goal(s) has/have been reached?

5. What is the context most focused on and what are the boundaries of that context?

At this point, I'd like those ATS members given to and somewhat gifted at brainstorming . . . to offer their brain-stomed responses to the above questions. Here are my flights of fancy in such directions I'll withhold censoring my own until the end:

1. One goal might be to hoax the public in a kind of egotistical orgasm of intellectual excess to demonstrate that not only is the hoaxer smarter than the average bear--he's smarter than a long list of average bears and the masses in general.

2. He could have some sort of very unique, super rare and heretofore fairly unheard of psychological problem that fosters extensive hours constructing another very special reality and working extremely hard to convince masses of people that the phoney reality is real.

3. He could be precisely who he says he is trying to do what he says he's trying to do.

4. He could be a paid shadow government disinformation speciallist trying to throw the world off the track of more important quarry.

5. He could be a paid shadow government employee trying to prepare the masses for future things with a mixture of truth and falsehood.

6. He could be a paid shadow government employee trying to prepare the masses for future things with calculated facets of and fractions of a larger truth.

7. He could be a sociology student, prof, fanatic trying an elaborate experiment on the impact of strange information on the culture.

8. He could be an ET plant doing 6 or 7 above.

9. He could be an angry mal-treated black ops former employee outting sensitive information in a very creative way to "SHOW THEM."

10. He could be a very bright, creative fellow living on a trust fund with far too much time on his hands.

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My own bias at present remains with some variation on #6.

I don't have a good explanation for the wide diversity of witnesses and locations . . . otherwise.

What would the memes be? . . . perhaps something along the lines of . . .

1. Reality is a dance stranger than any of you average simpletons dare imagine.

2. Brace yourselves, things are about to change with reality blinking in and out before your eyes; strange machines doing super strange things manned by stranger creatures altering your lives forever . . .

3. Add in stargates, invisibility . . . zapping individuals, families, groups where they don't want to go . . . or "merely" monitoring them extra-dimensionally at close range . . .

4. ???

I really would appreciate some spring boarding off the above in a wide diversity of brain-storming ways. I think that would be a most fruitful way to enlarge the fruitfulness of the whole idea of memes in terms of the phenomena and what it might be about.

Cheers.