US cat 'predicts patient deaths'

Now this IS just plain weird



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Never trusted cats anyway - perhaps it's really killing the patients

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I was under the impression that this was a mods job?

Interesting, I hadn't seen the other thread.

Animals have a sensitivity to these things which I believe is due to a total 100% trust in their gut instincts. The gut instinct comes from our sub-conscious which is in touch with the forces around us or the "universal consciousness".

Perhaps one day we will use our sub-conscious more and will then develop similar abilities to the cat

Ross

Mmm interesting thinking Nomad.

But will mankind ever be ready to face the knowledge of certain death?

Could our evolution to a questioning, intelligent being have removed us from the great plan? Maybe we are being protected from the death concept by the universe...our questioning minds, unable to accept the truth?

The other creatures, without imagination and abstract concepts running free in their minds, don't question existence...so they have no concept of death as we see it. Perhaps they are aware of a transition from one realm to another...something we have lost because we must know "Why?" to everything. To the cat "Everything just is"....like Jasper Carrot's Cat skit, they just eat, sleep and bonk

I have often wondered if the ancients knew of this and this is the real meaning of "falling from grace" mentioned by some religions.

I am aware of animals "sensing things" and there is mention of human young sensing invisible friends. Perhaps, the unprogrammed young human is closer to the universal consciousness than the adult human.

One thing that seems certain, we will all one day have our own "death experience"...hopefully things don't end there and we can discuss it in another place............a place where the weird is normal and a radio show is called "Now Thats Normal"

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Yes, children seem much more trusting of their instincts until they go to school and then the system teaches them differently! It's such a shame.

Ross

I'm trying to relearn how to trust my instinct, but it's very difficult.

I've always been an intuitive kind of person - you know, when you dislike someone as soon as you meet them, I'm right about them about 90% of the time as a guesstimate.

It's such a pity people don't have these skills anymore.

BTW did anyone ever see the TV programme (one of the BBC channels I think) called "Can Dogs Smell Cancer"?

It is a shame indeed. It could ultimately be mans greatest loss.

Our reliance on mankind's intelligence and technology takes us further from nature and our instincts. The further we get from nature and the universal consciousness, the greater the affects of its forces on us when things go bad. Look at the recent flooding. A bit of splosh and a G8 country looks like a third world village devastated by flood.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Its that first impressions thing. But as I grew older I gradually thought, how can I judge someone without knowing them?

I think in part it is because we have a lot of stuff going on around us. Our ancestors had plenty of time to tune into themselves, their only diversions being eating, sleeping working the land etc. The only social interactions and entertainment being the occasional ritual.

These days we have no time to think...even less time to be unproductively "day-dreaming". I believe that the day-dreaming state is close in brainwave activity to the state of many so called psychic activities.

Our attitude to day-dreaming etc is removing our spiritual connection to the universal consciousness etc.

Two cents.

I think this goes back to the left and right brain issue - in that over the years we have lost the right-brain abilities or had them "taught out of us".

Ross

Fair point, but I'd question a couple of those points.

Our ancestors may have been working the land and had plenty of time to think, but in my experience, that kind of hard, physical labour is more likely to numb than inspire.

The level of education was much lower, and so people were not able to express themselves in a manner appropriate to a situation/thought/feeling.

I'm not saying that people in earlier times didn't think about these things, rather the average person would not have had the knowledge base to make a "sophisticated" argument.

This in turn may have lead to the use of intuition

I am sure that we have more personal disposable time as well as income compared to much earlier generations, it's just that we choose to use it differently.

Perhaps the cat is actually doing the killing...

Didn't the article say that the cat was not that social? Which brings to mind - why is a bad-tempered animal on the floor? Isn't that supposed to be reserved for more gregarious animals like Labradors?

"Oh, hello, Mr Smith, I've brought you an animal visitor today - Max, the pit bull."

"GRRRR"

"Nooo..nooo"

"Now, now, Mr Smith, he's here to help you in your dying moments"

"GRRRR--GRRRRR"

"He...doesn't...like... me"

"I'll just leave the two of you together for a bit, shall I?"

"NOO HELP HELP"

(door clicks shut...sounds of savage snarling...a few weak screams, then silence)

"Oh, dear, looks like Mr Smith has passed on. I guess NHS won't have to pay for him anymore. Come along then, Max, let's go see Mrs Robinson in 252."

At any rate, remember all the stories about cats sucking the breath out of people and killing them in their beds? Perhaps this particular moggy is an evil psychopomp, stealing the souls of the defenseless and carrying them off to Hell.

well, yes,
I've met a few psycho pussy's in my time,
but that's no reason to take it out on the entire domestic animal population
Especially the dogs.