Could we be a left over 3rd worlds society of ancient times?, page 1
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reply posted on 12-1-2004 @ 10:26 AM by AlnilamOmega
uh... well... this is a tough one... (scratches head)

i would not say humanity, in its current stage, is likened to a third-world country... Well... never mind, I take it back; I do say that. Usually, in a third world country, there are three things that are causing it to have such a "crippled" circumstantial economy.

1. IMF/and other international banks that give shoddy loans to these countries with astronomical interest rates.

2. In the eyes of the consumer, the country has no profitable goods to export to those who can buy lots of it.

3. Corrupt and puppeteered government that reports to an extension of international banking.

now that I have identified the causes of third world poverty, heres how it can be likened to the CURRENT state of humanity:

1. 99% of all humans are slave to currency which effectively reduces their purchasing power on average while also limiting their ability to live upon their free will.

2. In the eyes of TPTB, humans have no 'export' that which is extremely profitable or otherwise could liken most humans with thhe elite.

3. Across the 180+ countries of the world, you can bet that at least 80% of them has at least one puppet or one corrupt official who plays ball.

Now, I can easily imagine a past like Atlantis or maybe even Lemuria... before the Great Terran War and looooooooong before Babylon and Sumeria when things got crappy... where humans and other entities worked together to accomplish mutual goals. Truly a utopia, though thousands of years ago, you had equality and nobility working as one and the same... the way it should be.


reply posted on 12-1-2004 @ 01:57 PM by AlnilamOmega
a fascinating topic, indeed, considering the tale told by the Rg Veda. Ever hear of Vimanas? Vedics of the distant past did... thousands of years ago:

they supposedly look like this:

from:
fusionanomaly.net...

"Among the more famous ancient texts that mention aerial cars (Vimanas) are the Ramayana and Mahabharata. Other lesser known texts include the Samarangana Sutra-dhara, the Yuktikalpataru of Bhoja (12th century A.D.) the Mayamatam (attributed to the architect Maya celebrated in the Mahabharata), the Rig Veda, the Yajurveda and the Ataharvaveda.

According to the Indian historian Ramachandra Dik#ar, other texts which mention aerial vehicles and travels are the Satapathya Brahmanas; the Rig Veda Samhita; the Harivamsa; the Makandeya Purana; the Visnu Purana; the Vikramaurvasiya; the Uttararamacarita; the Harsacarita; the Tamil text Jivakocintamani; and the Samaranganasutradhara.

In the Manusa, the most elaborate details for building aerial machines are set down. The Samarangana Sutradhara says that they were made of light material, with a strong, well-shaped body. Iron, copper, mercury and lead were used in their construction. They could fly to great distances and were propelled through air by motors. The Samarangana Sutradhara text devotes 230 stanzas to the building of these machines, and their uses in peace and war:

Strong and durable must the body be made, like a great flying bird, of light material. Inside it one must place the Mercury-engine with its iron heating apparatus beneath. By means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky in a most marvelous manner. Similarly by using the prescribed processes one can build a vimana as large as the temple of the God-in-motion. Four strong mercury containers must be built into the interior structure. When these have been heated by controlled fire from iron containers, the vimana develops thunder-power through the mercury. And at once it becomes a pearl in the sky. Moreover, if this iron engine with properly welded joints be filled with mercury, and the fire be conducted to the upper part it develops power with the roar of a lion. The Ramayana describes a vimana as a double-deck, circular (cylindrical) aircraft with portholes and a dome. It flew with the speed of the wind and gave forth a melodious sound (a humming noise?). Ancient Indian texts on Vimanas are so numerous it would take several books to relate what they have to say. The ancient Indians themselves wrote entire flight manuals on the control of various types of Vimanas, of which there were basically four: the Shakuna Vimana, the Sundara Vimana, the Rukma Vimana and the Tripura Vimana. The Vaimanika Sastra is perhaps the most important ancient text on Vimanas known to exist. It was first reported to have been found in 1918 in the Baroda Royal SanskritLibrary. Baroda is located north of Bombay and south of Ahmedabad in Gujerat. No earlier copies have been reported, however, Swami Dayananda Saraswati in his comprehensive treatise on the Rig Veda dated 1875 references the Vaimanaik Sastra in his commentary, as well as other manuscripts on Vimanas. The Vaimanika Sastra refers to 97 past works and authorities, of which at least 20 works deal with the mechanism of aerial Flying Machines, but none of these works are now traceable. Says Sanskrit literature professor Dileep Kumar Kanjilal, Ph.D. of the West Bengal Senior Educational Service, Since the transcripts of the work date from early 20th century the authenticity of the Vail Sastra may be pertinently questioned. On careful analysis it has been found that the work retained some antique features pertaining to an old Sastra. Like the Sutras of Panini the rules have been laid down in an aphoristic style with the explanation couched in Vrittis and Karikas. The Sutra style is to be found in the earliest works on grammar, Smrti and Philosophy, while the use of Karikas is as old as Batsyayana, Kautilya and others of the early Christian era. Bharadwaja as the author of a Srauta Satra and Smrti work is well-known and a sage Bharadwaja as the seer of the 6th Mandala of the Rig Veda is also well-known. Panini also referred to him in VII. II.63. Kautilya had also shown that Bharadwaja was an ancient author on politics. The Mbh. (Mahabharata, Santiparva Ch. 58.3) refers to Bharadwaja as an author on politics. Authors on politics have very often been found to have written on the technical sciences also. The genuineness, therefore, of any treatise on technical sciences composed by Bharadwaja cannot be ignored. Says the Vaimanika Sastra about itself: In this book are described in 8 pregnant and captivating chapters, the arts of manufacturing various types of Aeroplanes of smooth and comfortable travel in the sky, as a unifying force for the Universe, contributive to the well-being of mankind. "

more from a different source if you don't like Terrence McKenna:

www.accomplice.info...

" An inspiration behind Accomplice’s scarcars such as Karloff’s loco vimana, the VIMANA are spacecraft, land leviathans, airplanes and interdimensional craft described in great technical detail in the ancient Vedic literature of India. Some were said to be as fast as thought itself.

In the ancient Vymanka-Shastra (Science of Aeronautics), there’s a description of a Vimana: "An apparatus which can go by its own force, from one place to place or globe to globe." The Hakatha (Laws of the Babylonians) states that “The privilege of operating a flying machine is great. The knowledge of flight is among the most ancient of our inheritances. A gift from 'those from upon high'. We received it from them as a means of saving many lives.” The Sifrala contains over one hundred pages of technical details on building a flying machine, with words which translate as graphite rod, copper coils, crystal indicator, vibrating spheres, stable angles, etc. The Ramayana describes a vimana as a double-deck, circular aircraft with portholes and a dome. The Vaimanika Sastra, a fourth century BC text, deals with the operation of Vimanas and how to switch the drive to "solar energy" from a free energy "anti-gravity" source. "

[Edited on 1/12/2004 by AlnilamOmega]
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