Originally posted by dbates
Many of you may have seen this before (Since it's older) but I don't recall ever seeing this linked here. It's a lecture by Dr. Albert Bartlett
from the University of Colorado in Boulder.
Another name i can add to my list...
He discusses the ridiculous notion that we can continue as we are today expecting to keep growing in population, or expecting our energy
needs to be fulfilled as our demand increases.
Well i do not see why that is ridiculous even if you wish to exclude vacuum,ZP solar, wind or energy from the calculation. Why do we keep finding more
efficient conventional means of producing energy and why do the majority of the now vastly greater population of the Earth still live better than they
did a thousand years ago? What on Earth suggests that this can not go on as is if we could keep our various leaders from getting us involved in ever
more pointless and destructive wars?
The only possible solution is to stop growth which means, yes it means a peak of oil production.
What does growth and the lies about a peak in oil-in-the-ground have to do with each other?
Many of you don't' want to hear this, but it is a mathematical fact. We can not continue a growth in oil production. It's physically
That's just nonsense and there is absolutely no math, that involves observed reality at least, that suggests a peak in oil any decade soon.
You can find a link to this video, audio, and transcript here -->> Dr. Albert Bartlett:
Arithmetic, Population and Energy. You can also find this video broken up into 8 parts if you wish to watch it on YouTube. Just search for
I would rather not waste more hours of my life watching propaganda of this variety so if you could sum up what makes his 'facts' any more accurate
than those normally presented i will spend whatever time is required to show you all the facts he simply refuses to acknowledge.
I guarantee that once you finish watching this you'll scratch your head and say "Holy H-E Double Hockey Sticks"!
And all good propaganda flicks will have that effect on the ignorant and especially so when it involves the end of 'things as we know it'. When you
start sticking around to defend these horrendous lies you present as facts i will address specific issues but i do not see why i should address the
same old claims as presented by a new propagandist.
The facts are pretty hard to ignore.
If they were true they would be but since they are not i can show everyone interested just how easy it is.
We can not continue to increase production. It has to eventually peak. For example....
We can and have so far and this despite wars, genocide and a well organized attempt by very powerful factions to ensure oil scarcity.
And the second question: if you were an average bacterium in that bottle, at what time would you first realize you were running of space? Well,
let’s just look at the last minutes in the bottle. At 12:00 noon, it’s full; one minute before, it’s half full; 2 minutes before, it’s a
quarter full; then an 1?8th; then a 1?16th. Let me ask you, at 5 minutes before 12:00, when the bottle is only 3% full and is 97% open space just
yearning for development, how many of you would realise there’s a problem?
Human beings are not bacterium and it's very revealing that such examples are used to 'explain' this to us. People who view the exponential growth
of humanity in such terms should in my opinion be lined up and dealt with as i can but imagine how much Nazi literature they have read and they hours
they spend coming up with more efficient ways of 'reducing growth' , as they would say.
Now I ask you, if we're beginning to see symptoms of peak oil, what time is it?
We are not so it's a rather irrelvent question. We have had the technology to tap vacuum energy since around 1885 and i refuse to believe in scarcity
because it's so efficiently forced on us.
Global oil production has been flat or declining since 2005.(
And oil were cheaper per barrel in 1981 than it was in 2005 and the price recently dropped to 8USD per barrel in 1998; if you wish to believe in the
ludicrous notion that oil in the ground is somehow and suddenly running out ( Are the Aliens stealing it?) feel free but this is pretty much how i am
going to respond.
See this post) We may already be past the peak.
So the sky may have already fallen on our heads like it did in 1980 and 1985 and 1987 and 1991 and 1997 and 2001 and 2003 and etc? When will the peak
oil crowd accept the fact that the internet exists and that we can now check up on how many times they have cried wolf in the last thirty years?
Now watch the video and see what you think of the ideas presented.
I'm pretty sure i would have hated it so feel free to convince me that this is any better than all the other related scaremongering i have had to sit
WARNING. Do not watch if you want to continue believing that peak oil is a myth.
I know it's a myth , wolves eating grandma's is far more realistic, and while peak oil would probably help bring in alternative technologies and
better environmental policies i wont be part of a lie. As i stands they are clearly not going to use the created scarcity to change the world for the
better but instead consolidate the control they already have by forcing us to give up the freedom we have gained by the relative abundance of cheap
energy western citizens already enjoys.