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Topic started on 23-7-2007 @ 09:32 PM by Access Denied


This just in...

New Mexico Company Fined, Ordered To Stop Selling Illegal Fireworks Components
www.cpsc.gov...


U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs Washington, DC 20207
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 20, 2007
Release #07-249

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At sentencing today, United Nuclear Scientific Supplies LLC, of Edgewood, N.M., founded and operated by Robert Lazar, was fined $7,500 and received three years probation. The firm violated federal law which prohibits the sale of chemicals and components used to make illegal fireworks.

Not too smart...



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reply posted on 23-7-2007 @ 09:39 PM by mystr


Fireworks? He sells even polonium 210, the radioactive substance that killed alexander litvinenko in london...



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 08:31 AM by uv777bk


Sounds like desperate times for the boy, Lazar.

And maybe I'm not being too smart but what have fireworks got to do with nuclear science? There's either a shared component thing, the company are 'diversifying', or they've been set up.

Perhaps John Lear can let us know something about what is going on with this...?



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 08:45 AM by yeahright



Originally posted by uv777bk
what have fireworks got to do with nuclear science?


They sell all kinds of stuff, including some very cool coffee mugs. He's got science kits and experiments suitable for schools, t-shirts, posters, magnets, and up to now, fireworks stuff.

See if this looks familiar. To someone who has perused the threads extensively, it might be recognized as an object held by one of our esteemed members.

>HINT<




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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 09:01 AM by uv777bk



Originally posted by yeahright

Originally posted by uv777bk
what have fireworks got to do with nuclear science?


They sell all kinds of stuff, including some very cool coffee mugs. He's got science kits and experiments suitable for schools, t-shirts, posters, magnets, and up to now, fireworks stuff.

See if this looks familiar. To someone who has perused the threads extensively, it might be recognized as an object held by one of our esteemed members.

>HINT<




Heheheheh! Looks like they really are diverse! The word 'nuclear' seems to be used rather more loosely than I'd imagined.

Now if only they could make a ray gun like the one in Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow... that works



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 09:56 AM by wildone106


Seems to me like harrassment, I think this further validates some claims that he was working for the government, because they just wont leave him alone will they.



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 10:51 AM by Cibai



Originally posted by Access Denied
This just in...




I think he is John Lear best friend, John is his die hard believer.
They were buddies in the old time.

And John Lear is the most credible special guess in this forum.

One down, another to go?



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 11:25 AM by schuyler



Originally posted by wildone106
Seems to me like harrassment, I think this further validates some claims that he was working for the government, because they just wont leave him alone will they.


In reading through this thread I just knew there would be a post like this. Thanks! If Lazar got a parking ticket someone would say the NWO was picking on him and setting him up. Somehow nothing is ever his fault.

[edit on 7/24/2007 by schuyler]



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 03:44 PM by Cibai



Originally posted by schuyler

In reading through this thread I just knew there would be a post like this. Thanks! If Lazar got a parking ticket someone would say the NWO was picking on him and setting hum up. Somehow nothing is ever his fault.

[edit on 7/24/2007 by schuyler]



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 05:13 PM by antar


Perhaps the fine was well worth what he made on the deal!



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 05:30 PM by schuyler



Originally posted by Cibai

And John Lear is the most credible special guess in this forum.




I think you expressed that ESPECIALLY well, Cibai. Lear is definitely a special guess.



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 05:50 PM by Sys_Config


Thanks to Bob we have new sleek model saucers versus those flying kettles that were the mainstay for years. Shame it looks like he was reformed and just wants to make an honest buck. I don't understand the charge in the sense that most chem sales always include things that when mixed are explosive, like potassium, catalysts, that we used in school chem, even certain household detergents. Then again, my local gastation had a pay 10000 dollars for letting a permit to sell gasoline expire. BuuuuT Yet, he was ok with the polonium used as a trigger for nukes as well as certain paints. Beats me. If something happens again, I will know for sure he is being harassed. Then again..


Cheers to Bob
He was a jolly good fellow



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 06:04 PM by johnlear


Bob grew up in New York and studied the art of making fireworks under one the fireworks families there, I forget which one. Bob was a master and ran the largest outlaw fireworks display west of the Mississippi every year for 13 years. I was privileged to be part of most of them.

It was always a three day affair, always held illegaly on BLM land and usually had from 200 to 1000 participants. Anything in the way of explosives and guns were permissable. We usually had 4 or 5 airplanes (including a B-26 one year) making mock strafing runs on cars which were purchased from junk yards and/or donated which were wired with explosives. The airplanes would also put on a mock dogfight.

We also had private helicopter gunships with live fire excercises. We usually had 2 or 3 thousand pounds of ammonium nitrate to explode. Bob would make a couple of passes in his 300 mph jetcar. We had a machine gun contest for largest machine gun, I believe one year someone brought a quad 50. There were also several canons. The preparations took about 3 months and everybody had to take a turn at Bob's house rolling stars. Bob had 8 or 10 highly qualified assistants to help prepare and set all of the explosives and fireworks. It was one of the biggest open secret events in Las Vegas. It was attended by FBI, ATF, BLM and other agencies who just came to have fun and look the other way. Nothing was ever mentioned by any agency about lack of permits or authoization for any reason after the event. There was a 2 story platform which was set up from which the event was narrated and music played and skits offered. There were usually about 60 motor homes lined up along the dry lake bed each with their own fake lawns, tiki torches, ATV's and beautiful women on lounge chairs.

I was in charge of clean-up every year. I would hire day laborers and we would work about 10 to 12 hours a day for several days. We would shovel and sweep up all debris, load in 55 gallon 3 mil bags and haul to Apex, which is the local dump. When we were done, the dry lake on which we held the event was spotless. There was no trace of fireworks or that anybody had ever been there. A BLM ranger would usually visit at my house a few days after and tell me, "John I couldn't even find a cigarette butt."

For pictures and info on the event you can goggle "Desert Blast". In 13 years of "Desert Blasts" not one single accident occured nor was anybody ever injured due to a fireworks mishap. A few people fell over drunk and hit their heads though.

When Bob moved to Sandia Park in 2001 he offered firework supplies and equipment along with his scientific equipment. The company no longer offers the firework supplies. You can check what he has today at unitednuclear.com.



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 08:25 PM by Sys_Config


John
I wish I had hung out with you guys back then. I am glad he had good friends around him and hope everything works out for him. He really is talented and a good guy and needs a good break.

SyS



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 08:52 PM by carnival_of_souls2047


My favorite Bob Lazar influenced product that I ever bought was the "Sport Model" styrene kit (1998). After sanding it smooth I took it down to the basement of the shared parking of the building at about midnight and sprayed it with Testor's Aluminum paint. I finished assembly and now it's ready for interstellar propulsion testing. I just love the design, it's classic!



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reply posted on 24-7-2007 @ 09:35 PM by observe50


I think Bob as been through the ringer from the sounds of it.

What you describe is the way I remember the old days, shame people are getting so tottsy-tottsy (I just made a new word :lol Them was the good old days as my grandkids would say chill or is that already yesterday.



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reply posted on 25-7-2007 @ 05:43 PM by Cibai


Aha, so Bob Lazar is a fireworkers.

It is easy now to understand why he is busted in ufology.



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reply posted on 25-7-2007 @ 06:28 PM by johnlear


The following pictures are from Real Edge magazine who did a story on the last Desert Blast (no. 13) which was held in 1999. This is looking east over the dry lake bed and there are 2 airplanes in a dog fight. The skull and bones was always Bob's signature flag. When it wasn't flying over Desert Blast it was flying over his house:



This is the 3000 pouinds of ammonium nitrate going up :



This was one of the most famous pictures of the 13 years of Desert Blast. That is my daughter Alli on the left and Bob's girlfriend Linda on the right. Aquafina bottled water was the preferred drink at Desert Blast.




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reply posted on 25-7-2007 @ 06:32 PM by tezzajw


John, that's one big fireball. Great pictures, thanks for sharing them, mate.



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reply posted on 25-7-2007 @ 06:45 PM by NJ Mooch


www.rocketryplanet.com...

This article has more info on another topic that is related to this. The CPSC is trying to make it safer for the public while making it hard for certain companies to operate because of the chance of these materials getting into the wrong hands.

I would think that Bob can look into getting licensed to sell those chemicals and components to make this stuff. I should have stopped by his place when I was in the area this past week.

It was easy back in the day to get ths stuff, but we weren't as aware as we are now. I think that is why the gov't is taking our purchasing power away one step at a time. They made mercury very hard to get, now they are making firework and model rocket chemicals hard to get, I wonder why? Do they want to limit our capabilities to explore?



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