Originally posted by gottago
Hate to say it, but Valee's thinking is typical of a certain strain of subversive French intellectualism. You have to have lived there to recognize
it. First, it delights in going against the grain, of flipping things on their head, inverting them. It's an old tradition, "epater la
bourgeoisie," or shock the middle classes, they being, in this case, the UFO establishment. Secondly, it delights in its own cleverness of thought,
and is narcissistic verging on hermetic, and tends to displace the question at hand from the verifiable and quantifiable into the realms of pure
speculation, mind puzzles. Third, it makes sweeping, unsupported assumptions trying to unify unifiable data.
For Vallee to proclaim that the data of UFO sightings indicates a continual time lag of 50-100 years beyond our own technological advancement is an
example of the third point, a sweeping proclamation that has no real basis in the reports and cannot be deduced from them. Rather it is a
seduction.
[edit on 23-7-2007 by gottago]
Really? Doesn't sound like you hate to say it at all!
And no... it is most certainly NOT a "sweeping proclamation that has no real basis in the reports and cannot be deduced from them". Look back at the
history and you will find an evolution from Americans in airships in the 1800's, to cheesy flying saucers piloted by green humans from Venus in the
1950's, to big-headed Grey Crowley-Lams in giant flying pyramids in the late 1900's, to ever-changing blobs containing nothing but notions in the
2000's.
Nobody EVER sees dirigibles piloted by Americans anymore!
The facts
are there. In huge blinking neon letters. UFO's
have evolved over the last 150 years.
Whether this evolution is caused by human imagination, ultra-terrestrial shenanigans, or some combination of the two is the question. A question that
debunkers should be able to find a satisfactory answer to.
A skeptic could easily and reasonably dismiss this phenomenon by attributing it to human imagination. So where's your beef? Is it, perhaps, that the
fact of the evolution of UFOs conflicts with the conventional nuts and bolts approach to UFOlogy?
[edit on 17-1-2010 by Ragu23]
is right... but you forgot to mention it was Clifford Stone who is here on ATS 
