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Originally posted by deaman88
As for legal US citizens, the company will be able to increase the cost of goods to you, and you'll have to pay.
Apart form the company, no one wins, and now there are thousands more unemployed people living in the US, adding to the unemployment across the nation. Will your average Joe apply for the jobs and be paid at the same rates as the illegals?
I hope they can get other jobs, and I also think the government should take responsibility for them and provide assitance for them to be fully integrated into th US as they have clearly demonstarted that they are contributing to the economy, and can live as respectable citizens within the States.
Originally posted by niteboy82
They are not provided the same protection as a legal citizen/legal worker because they are not here legally.
Originally posted by shots
Can you explain how you came to that conclusion? They get Mirandized when arrested, they are allowed to call a lawyer if they request, they get free medical attention if needed the list goes on and on or have I missed something here? What protection are they not getting that normal citizens are???
Originally posted by Sys_Config
The cost to maintain such a population in terms of schools and medical care far exceeds what they put in. Inevitable is part the doctrine espoused by la raza that this country was theirs,
It is not ours they say, we stole it . Its almost like the science fiction characters the Borg who would say.Surrender, Resistance is futile..I'm sorry..but not yet. Such a population would be heavily dependent on the Government (us) to take care of them as they are now.
The self supporting producing middle class would see its wages drop, as this group takes over and companys outsource. eventually you have the U.S. as a third rate power and third world standard of living.
Well take the message back that we will not rollover and sucumb to this. They were not invited here. Legal Immigrants were. If they want to be a good citizen, get in line and take a number like everyone else!, or get a work permit or whatever. But don't tell me its moot and inevitable that we accept this particularly when we know what the agenda is besides getting "a good life "
You raised some fine points there, but I still maintain we are talking about human costs here. You could accept immgrants with visas, and I am sure that given a chance, those 'illegals' would apply for citizenship, as long as they were assured residency.
That being the case, and they could then contribute by paying taxes, and having the same rights as any other person living in the USA. YOur point about maintaining high costs based on the meagre contributions they make is my point exactly, if they were paid the average hourly rate, they would obviously pay the relevant taxes.
Also, wouldn't you rather allow those already assimilated into US culture to stay and tighten border control? At least you have people that already live and breathe USA in this case.
Technically, Texas was formerly owned by Mexico, and not everybody agreed in selling the state off for a pittance, that is where you are confused by saying they want the USA, and it is inevitable that you would get migrant workers into your country, especially as americans have been so arrogant that driving a yellow taxi cab is beneath them.
Whether they were invited or not, is not at stake here now, what is at stake is that by letting these people go, it will not alleviate the critical levels of unemployment, the jobs probably wouldn't be filled, and the USA will start to breakdown further, as these 'illegals' are part of the backbone of american cutlture, and denting them is like exacerbating the problem, not solving it.
[edit on 23/7/2007 by deaman88]