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Personally I think McCain has a real antipathy for the religious right . . the fact that Obama did not give safe, pat answers to them raised my estimation of him considerably, when after all giving them the "safe" answers were all they were looking for anyway.
I think we saw the real John McCain before he began this Presidential run. The real John McCain is what the mainstream would characterize as a liberal Republican. His prior stance on immigration prove that beyond any shadow of a doubt. McCain is trying to be a composite and he's just not pulling it off. Obama himself will have to make a lot deals and compromises, if he wants the Presidency . .
Too many politicians are willing to shake hands with the proverbial Devil to win high office. There's nothing wrong with changing your mind, but few politicians are willing to admit that they actually did have a change of heart about anything.
Politicians world wide have a deserved reputation for being untruthfulness at times. Popularism is the flavor of the month world wide. John Key and the National party don't stand for anything and yet with voters drifting back . . This could result in National governing alone.
Forty acres and a mule. Politicians are going to tell every group what they want to hear. Always have, always will.
To "paraphrase" Michelle Obama from her convention speech last night: Obama is the THREAT that connects us.
New packaging for those who are still involved. In Michelle Obama's case, lots of new packaging.
In my opinion, Ronald Reagan's biggest contribution to American life was his ability to act and sound like the kind of leader that we wanted. His policies were a different story, but he put on the right kind of show.
It's rare to find a man or woman who can act the part of the leader that we want. That's why the media can make up this "test" and talk about it for weeks on end. They don't want to call if for what it really is.
Originally posted by donwhite
J/O, you nailed down this (humble) effort to add a new facet to the thread on your first shot. How can I keep up the debate when I have to agree with everything you say?!
Well I have to say it was an interesting convention. I have to hand it to Hillary. She pulled it off with considerable grace and aplomb... especially when she closed the roll call . .even ole Bill behaved himself . . Bill as ambassador to the UN and Hillary heading Health and Human Services.
As for Obama . . besides the one he gave in 2004, this was the first full speech of his I had heard and the man can talk and despite his naysayers comments . . they lie, if a person can talk well they can persuade and if they can persuade then they can govern . . its really as simple as that . . you govern either though coercion or persuasion and of the two persuasion is the most effective.
I have no illusions about him because he is after all a politician but I do believe he is sincere. And he is far more moderate and mainstream than his detractors would have you believe. Obama strikes me as the type of man you can sit down with and have a serious discussion with, even if you disagree, you know it will be civil because he is civil. Which really worries me because the hard right and the Republicans are going to (and started some time ago) probably run the ugliest campaign in modern history because really they have nothing to run on other than fear.
Obama can't sit back and pull a John Kerry and let himself be defined and smeared by the opposition . . he is going to have to fight back and fight back hard or he runs the chance of being buried. Still the currents are pulling in his favor . . people are sick of the bullhooey. However he [McCain] sold his soul by sucking up to bush minor and the party for this chance .. and especially after the crappy way he was treated in the South C arolina primary in 2000 when surrogates for the bush minor campaign sent out those mailings and calls suggesting that McCain's Bangladesh daughter was the result of a tryst with a black prostitute . . we saw Rove at his vilest.
Obama will win . . the tides are in his favor . . the real question now is by how much.