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Originally posted by joehayner
Keep in mind. I am not fighting Communism or defending Capitalism. I just want Democracy with balance.
I agree, its been a failure, but Marx was definitely on to something.
He was on to something. He designed a perfect system where everyone could be equally happy. BUT, he forgot to factor in human flaw. He didn't factor in greed or laziness. For Communism to work, everyone must want Communism. Everyone must want to be equal. They must be willing to sacrifice.
Do you think a majority of the rich want to live like the middle class? Would they give up their three summer homes in Bermuta, their silk sheets, lavish clothing? I know I wouldn't like to move any further down the ladder. They would be the ones who screw up the system by cheating, hoarding, or sapping funds. Like I said, we currently have an aristocracy.
I don't believe Capitalism's "goal" is for a few rich men and a poor Earth. It is what you make of it. If you try hard to make a comfortable living, you will have it. True, some must try harder, but it is always possible. This country, however, is not truly Capitalist. We are a free-market Aristocracy, and were always designed to be so.(so you can't use the USA as an example of Capitalism) It was designed to be a place for the rich that were not accepted in Europe to live and rule. They rule the system, they have the power. Personally, I don't even think they know how much power they have.
Then comes the laziness factor that namehere mentioned. It causes people to be unproductive. No incentives are offered to work hard. You get paid the same no matter how much you do. Capitalism, on the other hand, gives people a chance to attain their dreams, to be greedy, to work harder. Though, in our present time with all the socialistic policies being thrown around, people are lazier than ever. They don't want to learn, and they don't want to work.
Socialism, not Communism is the flaw. If you could find a way to get to Communism without going through Socialism, you could have it. As I have said before, there has never(EVER) been a Communist country. Every single one in history(USSR, China, Cuba, N. Korea, Vietnam, ect...) were(or are) ALL Socialism or Authoritarian.
Capitalism is the only system that factors in greed and laziness. The only flaw I can see in Capitalism is that there is no factor for coruptness.
Originally posted by Viendin
Silver, that made you... 3, maybe, 4 days late on the joke? Needs an improvement on timing, and lose the ebaum's tag, now you're just lazy.
Originally posted by tr
Yes laziness sucks. America is the land of opportunity. I started my small business a few years ago cleaning out HUD homes. I cleaned up a bunch of filthy houses. I worked my ass off 14 hours a day for them. I thought I was off to a good start. Then the government dropped their five year contract. The company I worked for declared bankruptcy. I had worked a month, invested 500 dollars in equipment, was owed 1700 for the month and then did not get paid for three years , and then only got about 700 dollars through bankruptcy court. i had "stick- to-it-iveness" though . I worked for the next company to take over the contract only to be screwed by cuts in pay for services. I finally quit. screw it. Now I'm azy. Now I don't give a damn. All I wanted was a decent paying job. I'm a veteran. I was in the gulf war. Why can't I make enough to have a decent living? I read on the conspiracy sites about how HUD" lost" 59 million bucks that year, 2000, and caould not verify their accounting. Now, would it be fair to require US citizens pay taxes and be held accountable for their bookkeeping? Heck, no. Maybe that's what Enron was thinking. Communist or Capitalists, theives suck. What I want to know is why is our government now putting America last, under the guise of America first. Democracy for Iraq, police state for america. Total BS. Can't even defend our borders. Legalize illegals if they haver a job? Great Idea. I guess that will not only include Mexicans but everyone who came here illegally . Maybe Hitlers still alive. maybe he snuck over the border and will be legal if he gets a job at the quickie mart---or at HUD.
Originally posted by GovConpiracy
I think that George Bush is a communist because he keeps making these stupid departments such as homeland security becuase he wants to controll all of us, then he'll declare mart. law and put us in labor camps if we refuse the NWO....