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Does anyone Believe Dr. Dan Burisch's alien/ufo Claims???

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posted on Jul, 22 2007 @ 04:14 AM
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I have asked the same question as the OP about why he isn't discussed often here on ATS in a thread I wrote a while back. I can shed some light on why.... simply he is a fraud and uses classic "Method of Opperand" that fraudsters use so my take is this...

If you listen to alot of his early stuff he was vague and seemed uncomfortable when questioned by interviewers about the details. As you follow his progression of retelling the same story alot more detail is added and he gets more confident. The story evolves and more information is added as you listen to the later interviews and he regularly uses words repetitively like Atrophy and other medical terms he likes exessively to try and bona fide his status.

He then gets his girl ( Whom was a prison Guard with him ) into the act to back up his claims and when she stumbles he quickly cuts in as she isn't as a proficient liar as he. I would like to find out the details of the Prison he was supposed to be a Guard in and talk to someone there at the time he was and shut him up for good.

The story of spintering time lines is a good angle and hard to disprove but suffers from massive amounts of paradoxical anomalies. The fact he disappeared from the scene for a year or so and then eloquently stitched it into his story as amnesia is weak.

He is selling things and trying to make cash which is "the" sham so forget about him and his fictional story.


[edit on 22-7-2007 by mazzroth]




posted on Jul, 22 2007 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by PlausibleDeniability
The unfiltered voice was compared to Bob Lazaar's and as I remember it was pretty much an identical match.

I really never figured out the damn search tool on here otherwise I would go find the thread myself and post it for you. If your skills are better than mine give it a whirl and you should find it.
It looks like we're on the same boat as well PlausibleDeniability, I tried to search for it and I can't seem to find this thread you talked about. If there's anyone out there on ATS who could find this thread it would be great so we could try to get to the bottom of who "Victor" really is and post about it on this thread. (sorry for goin' off topic folks)


[edit on 22-7-2007 by steve-o]



posted on Jul, 22 2007 @ 05:57 PM
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I personally don't believe a single word of Dan's story, not even his name is real. A good start is the info that ufowatchdog has collected about him.
After reading it i would trust Dan about as far as i could throw a piano. My gf, who is deeply into psychology, when watching the Camelot interviews remarked that he shows all signs of a pathological liar.





[Edit: Typos]

[edit on 22-7-2007 by casketizer]



posted on Jul, 23 2007 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by casketizer
I personally don't believe a single word of Dan's story, not even his name is real. A good start is the info that ufowatchdog has collected about him.
After reading it i would trust Dan about as far as i could throw a piano.
Thanks for your opinoin on Burisch( or whatever his damn name really is) casketizer, since I'm startin' to think of his tale as being bs as well . If anyone wants me to post up some vids of his on ATS I'll be glad to show ya ( I don't wont to bore ya to death with his words). Thanks for the info guys and would like to hear your thoughts on what Burisch talked about the men in black were like.



posted on Jul, 23 2007 @ 04:00 PM
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I can tell you from the bankruptcy filing (where his employment was listed as homemaker) and his wife's job (also alleged to be in MJ12 in various of their stories) was a PBX phone operator for The Mirage in Vegas. I called her there and while she basically hung up on me, I at least confirmed she was working in the casino industry.

That, plus other interviews with people from the Burisch's past that were unable to be published because they were unwilling to go on the record, led me to quickly believe that the story was just one of the thousands of unfounded tall tales found in UFOlogy.



posted on Jul, 23 2007 @ 04:16 PM
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I know this next is TOTALLY subjective on my part, acknowledged as such. When I first saw a Dan Burisch video he was filmed getting ready to speak. The hostess had a lapel microphone for him and she asked if he were comfortable wearing it and talking on camera. He responded with a snicker and a roll of his eyes as he took the microphone and he indicated that he was completely comfortable and had done this many times.

When he had this little exchange the expression on his face made me think, "He's a fake." immediately. It was just a visceral emotional reaction on my part not backed up by any facts. I hadn't heard his story at all at the time, but the guy just reeked of fraud to me. Not that I'm claiming anything. I thought Lazar and Greer, to name two, were very straight forward in the initial presentations I saw from them, and I think they're fakes as well, though in different ways.



posted on Jul, 23 2007 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by schuyler
I hadn't heard his story at all at the time, but the guy just reeked of fraud to me. Not that I'm claiming anything. I thought Lazar and Greer, to name two, were very straight forward in the initial presentations I saw from them, and I think they're fakes as well, though in different ways.
What are your reasons into believin' Bob Lazar's a hoaxter , is it because his academic backround was never confirmed or ya just don't believe what he stated. I believe Bob's claims (maybe I'm the only guy out here) , and had confirmation from unknown sources that he did work on the aircraft/ufo , I can't prove or state the info he claimed to recieve from the 120 plus briefings but only speculate if the info is fact or fiction.



posted on Jul, 23 2007 @ 05:48 PM
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I think it's all staged.
An internet folktale.
Why hasn't he made national news?
Why hasn't he been on Oprah? LOL.

I think it's a scam that a bunch of bored sci-fi fans made up.



posted on Jul, 23 2007 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by behindthescenes
I can tell you from the bankruptcy filing (where his employment was listed as homemaker) and his wife's job (also alleged to be in MJ12 in various of their stories) was a PBX phone operator for The Mirage in Vegas. I called her there and while she basically hung up on me, I at least confirmed she was working in the casino industry.
Could you supply us with links to the info you've got so those of us who post here could get a better understandin' to Burisch's bogus claims. I'm not orderin' ya to post them up, it's up to what ya wanna do to bring forth this info to take this scammer down and out of the world of ufoligy.(just kiddin' folks) I'd like to thank all of ya out there for postin' and for tryin' to get down to the bottom of this money driven man (which I'm as well
) known as Dan Burisch or whatever else he claims to be at the moment.


[edit on 23-7-2007 by steve-o]

[edit on 23-7-2007 by steve-o]



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by steve-o

Originally posted by behindthescenes
I can tell you from the bankruptcy filing (where his employment was listed as homemaker) and his wife's job (also alleged to be in MJ12 in various of their stories) was a PBX phone operator for The Mirage in Vegas. I called her there and while she basically hung up on me, I at least confirmed she was working in the casino industry.
Could you supply us with links to the info you've got so those of us who post here could get a better understandin' to Burisch's bogus claims. I'm not orderin' ya to post them up, it's up to what ya wanna do to bring forth this info to take this scammer down and out of the world of ufoligy.(just kiddin' folks) I'd like to thank all of ya out there for postin' and for tryin' to get down to the bottom of this money driven man (which I'm as well
) known as Dan Burisch or whatever else he claims to be at the moment.


[edit on 23-7-2007 by steve-o]

[edit on 23-7-2007 by steve-o]


Hi Steve:

I think a poster previously sent at least one good link to the story. UFO Magazine never put my actual story online, but this introduction kinda rounded up my and George Knapp's findings.

Other web sites picked up the story and bits of the filing.

Here's one good link.

And in the name of fair play, Dan Crain's mom, Doreen, allegedly wrote a rebuttle to UFO Mag's stories online. I'll leave her comments about the other people's stories to their response. As for her "rebuttle" to me, she chided me for apparently saying that Dan stopped going to the microbial society meetings in 1978, but in fact continued to go to them up through the 1980's. Of all the facts I presented, that's the one --uh piece, I guess -- that they say was wrong. I spoke with the president of the society at the time who told me when his records reflected Dan ceased to attend.

I do need to quit harping on this because no matter how much evidence to the contrary you throw at the cult of the burisch, they'll never not believe.



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by steve-o
What are your reasons into believin' Bob Lazar's a hoaxter , is it because his academic backround was never confirmed or ya just don't believe what he stated.

There aren't any degrees. Neither Cal Tech nor MIT have ever heard of him in any capacity. Of course, people will say the government 'disappeared' him. But what really got me was his own timeline, which had him going to MIT at the same time he attended Pierce College and the fact that the only professor he could remember from MIT was actually working at Pierce. So he tripped himself up with his own words. His physics doesn't check out. Read about that here. His W-2 form is for $900, so if he did see a saucer at Area 51 (or wherever) it had to have been a drive-by sighting because he wasn't there long enough to do much. He does have his supporters, including Lear. He's a good and persuasive speaker. That's it in a nutshell.

[edit on 7/24/2007 by schuyler]



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by behindthescenes
I do need to quit harping on this because no matter how much evidence to the contrary you throw at the cult of the burisch, they'll never not believe.
You've done some pretty good research there behindthescenes, I believe what you've shared with us to be truthfull and would like to thank ya for the info you've provided. i was wonderin' if ya know anything about the guy called "Victor" who was all covered up in the Alien Interview. I'm tryin' to get down to the bottom of this but when I web-swing around I seem to hit a deadend.



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by schuyler
His W-2 form is for $900, so if he did see a saucer at Area 51 (or wherever) it had to have been a drive-by sighting because he wasn't there long enough to do much. He does have his supporters, including Lear. He's a good and persuasive speaker. That's it in a nutshell.
I have nothing to say against you schuyler(since you're right about what you've stated) but if he did'nt have no educational backround how could he have worked for at the Los Alamos facility. Do they hire phony physicists and give them Q-clearances , or you have to look like a nut shell to apply. To me he's tellin' the truth since he never altered his story and never added anything (which Burisch did) to get more airtime.Another thing is how in the world he's runnin' United Nuclear if he's just a scam artist and not a certified physicist, if the company is runned by a person who knows nothing about science then this world is truely insane.



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 03:25 PM
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His W-2 form is for $900, so if he did see a saucer at Area 51 (or wherever) it had to have been a drive-by sighting because he wasn't there long enough to do much. He does have his supporters, including Lear. He's a good and persuasive speaker. That's it in a nutshell.

[edit on 7/24/2007 by schuyler]


What W-2 form? That's a new one to me...he had an alleged W-2 from who?



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by steve-o

Originally posted by behindthescenes
I do need to quit harping on this because no matter how much evidence to the contrary you throw at the cult of the burisch, they'll never not believe.
You've done some pretty good research there behindthescenes, I believe what you've shared with us to be truthfull and would like to thank ya for the info you've provided. i was wonderin' if ya know anything about the guy called "Victor" who was all covered up in the Alien Interview. I'm tryin' to get down to the bottom of this but when I web-swing around I seem to hit a deadend.


You'll need to educate me on this. I am unaware of Victor or the Alien Interview, believe it or not.



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by behindthescenes
You'll need to educate me on this. I am unaware of Victor or the Alien Interview, believe it or not.
If ya don't know about "Victor" or the Alien Interview I'm gonna post ya a part of the vid so you could see what I'm talkin' about. The guy never came foward sayin' he was a fraud since it's first release in 1996. Hope ya could give me your side to this since I'm still out of the loop. Thanks for the posts behindthescenes, since you seem to grasp some good info on these topics.



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by behindthescenes

What W-2 form? That's a new one to me...he had an alleged W-2 from who?


Lazar's W-2 is right here.



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by schuyler

Originally posted by behindthescenes

What W-2 form? That's a new one to me...he had an alleged W-2 from who?


Lazar's W-2 is right here.
Ain't this proof that he at least worked for the department of naval intelligence , this is his proof since the government doesn't hire people from the street with no credentials. That could have been the money he got from spreedin' dis info for all I know, all that matters is that he had worked there so he's got have told us some real info folks.



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 10:06 PM
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I’ve watched a 2 hour or so interview with him. He seemed pretty convincing in the first hour of the interview but near the end his story got so bizarre it was hard to believe him. He went over a few things like ‘looking glass’ technology which is like a stargate sg-1 type of thing. Who knows what kind of technology they got going on at Area 51.



posted on Jul, 24 2007 @ 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by Mass.
I’ve watched a 2 hour or so interview with him. He seemed pretty convincing in the first hour of the interview but near the end his story got so bizarre it was hard to believe him. He went over a few things like ‘looking glass’ technology which is like a stargate sg-1 type of thing. Who knows what kind of technology they got going on at Area 51.
All of his stuff could be possible but I think burisch is a dis-info agent who's spreadin' false knowledge just for the sake of payin' his bills. That stargate type stuff could be possible but since nobody has the grape fruits to come foward with some real info we're just gonna have to settle with Burisch's story.


[edit on 24-7-2007 by steve-o]



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