John Lear removed from wikipedia, page 1
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reply posted on 16-7-2007 @ 10:23 PM by Mirthful Me
Interesting...

Bill Lear's page is intact:

en.wikipedia.org...

But the link to John's page from it is dead.

Perhaps he requested it removed, or it could be due to wiki-vandalism.



reply posted on 16-7-2007 @ 11:27 PM by djohnsto77
Originally posted by makeitso
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Lear


I must say that's pretty funny... How does it feel to be deleted for being an unnotable nut?

[edit on 7/16/2007 by djohnsto77]


reply posted on 17-7-2007 @ 01:37 AM by JimmyCarterIsSmarter
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Interesting...

Bill Lear's page is intact:

en.wikipedia.org...

But the link to John's page from it is dead.

Perhaps he requested it removed, or it could be due to wiki-vandalism.

Damn you beat me to it....

*reads it*

LMFAO!

Though he could be difficult to work for, William Lear reportedly had a good sense of humour. He named his daughter Crystal Chanda ("crystal chandelier").



reply posted on 17-7-2007 @ 03:30 AM by Strawberry_Icecream
Great! Finally people are taking an interest!

I originally wrote the article back in November 2005. Please see my posts about it in the
John Lear Censorship? thread (scroll down until you see them). But I guess the discussion has moved to here now...

I was shocked back then when there was no article about John Lear on Wikipedia - a person with such credentials who was a central figure in one of the biggest stories of all time - Area 51/S-4. I was even more shocked when Wikipedia recently pulled the article! It is obvious that the editors who voted for deletion have no clue and are totally prejudice towards the subject matter. As I said in the other thread: I suggest the editors try a bit harder in verifying the information!

That Lear Gene article is an excellent find! Thanks VType!

I also see that people have added to my comment on the Wikipedia John Lear Discussion page as well. Thanks for the support! Now let's get this article back in there!

Maybe if someone has the time they would like to add and properly reference information from the Lear Gene article to the original Wikipedia article.

Remnants of the John Lear Wikipedia article can be found here at Answers.com.

Cheers!


reply posted on 17-7-2007 @ 05:22 PM by chucktaggart
Originally posted by VType
The link is a very comprehensive and factual accounting btw.
www.billlear.com...


Now that is a good link. I have been taking in John's posts for almost a year now and a common thing people try to debunk John with is, "is he who he says he is?" and this provides some excellent answers to that question.


reply posted on 17-7-2007 @ 05:55 PM by The Phantom
here is the original entry for john lear if you would like to add it to tinwiki

i have it copied onto my computer

Aviation background

John Lear, now retired from flying, amassed over 19,000 hours of flight time, and has flown in over 100 different types of airplanes in 60 different countries around the world. He flew both commercially and in missions worldwide for the CIA. John Lear is the only pilot to hold every airman certificate issued by the FAA, and has held many world records [1].

[edit] Early research work

John Lear claims to have always had a slight interest in UFOs. Sometime in the mid-1980s, he read the book Missing Time by Budd Hopkins, a book on alien abduction. This was to become a turning point. From then on John began heavily researching the subject, including tracking down and interviewing many witnesses and individuals involved in the phenomenon. Soon after, in about 1987 or 1988, John Lear began writing and lecturing on the subject.

[edit] Involvement with Bob Lazar and Area 51 / S-4

In the summer of 1988, John met a self-styled nuclear physicist named Bob Lazar, and soon became intimately involved in the Area 51 / S-4 story. It is claimed that Lazar worked at the S-4 test site (approx. 10 miles south of Area 51) from December 1988 to March 1989, where he took part in the back engineering of extraterrestrial craft. During this time Lazar relayed information to Lear about his alleged activities and experiences there.

During this time both Lear and Lazar claim that they were able to acquire a piece of the fuel that powered the craft, Element 115, conducting several experiments that proved the high gravitational attraction and heaviness of the element, among other things. Though, apparently, this evidence was "stolen" back.

Around March 1989 Bob Lazar, John Lear, Gene Huff and others organized several trips into the desert to view test flights from a distance. On one of these excursions, Lear claims to have witnessed a glowing yellow-orange, disc-shaped object that rose above the mountains at Groom Lake while looking through a Celestron telescope. On one of these trips, the group was eventually caught, and shortly thereafter, Bob Lazar ceased working at the test site.

In late 1989 KLAS-TV reporter George Knapp interviewed John Lear, which resulted in Knapp interviewing Bob Lazar and breaking the Area 51 / S-4 story to the public.

[edit] 1990s to Present

In the mid to late '90s, John Lear had a break from UFO research. In November 2003 Lear appeared on the popular Coast to Coast AM radio show to give an interview (first time in a decade) with Art Bell, where he shared his views on UFO Disclosure, among other topics. In March 2004 he appeared in another interview discussing revelations and theories about the moon. Most recently John Lear has become a regular posting member on the conspiracy based discussion forums fantasticforum.com (Coast to Coast AM discussion forum) [2], and AboveTopSecret.com [3] where his Moon Photo Anomalies discussion thread has become very popular.

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