Crowley Was Hitler?

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Although there is some disparity in age (Crowley was born in 1875 and Hitler in 1889) by the time you are looking for the switcheroo the difference wouldn't be that notable. In 1918 the quiet Austrian painter and minor war hero emerged from his convalescence (from mustard gas attacks and what some think was PTSD) as an occult-obsessed lunatic bent on world destruction.


Where was Aleister Crowley during Hitler's miserable stay and psychiatric treatment in Pasewalk Hospital, Pomerania (80 miles north of Berlin)? Hitler was treated for mustard gas, hysterical blindness, depression and post traumatic stress syndrome with hypnotic suggestion by Dr. Edmund Forster who diagnosed him as a psychopath.


When Hitler came out he was a rabid political animal. If there was a single, identifiable moment when Nazism was born, it was in that hospital in November 1918. Hitler’s degeneration had begun. He became a vegetarian obsessed with the occult. Hitler hired a chemist to produce methamphetamine in the early 1900's.


Hitler was infected with syphilis in 1908, and thirty years later, the dormant illness entered the tertiary stage. Tremors and irregular heartbeat during the last years of his life could have been symptoms of tertiary (late stage) syphilis. He was a methamphetamine addict from about 1935, courtesy the quack Dr. Morrell, who was retained by Hitler as his doctor because Morrell was a syphilis expert.


Whether Crowley was there for some reason is conjecture, but someone brainwashed, drugged, and hypnotized Hitler into a profound personality change. Further, Crowley’s notoriety as an Occult Messiah would likely have drawn Hitler’s attention in the natural course of events with his keen interest in the occult. Arguably, he was sort of a proto-Nazi. Both were slaves to drugs, which skewed their views of reality and jacked up their paranoia meters

Armed with new, secret psychological techniques Hitler was able to move the obscure National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP) from the clubs and beer halls to a mass movement, while in 1925 Crowley was elected World Head of the OTO.

Between 1936 and 1939 Crowley paid a number of visits to Nazi Germany while Heinrich Himmler's Occult Corps (Geheimnisvolle Korps) recruited or persecuted all practicing occultists in Germany and incorporated into one organization the Thule Society, the Vril Society and the German branch of the OTO. The SS Paranormal Division's subsequent vilification of Crowley during World War II was a simple cover; behind the political facades performed for the public the most powerful factions (occult and economic) of Germany and Britain were not enemies but allies, bound together in the one great war for the conquest of men’s souls and minds.

On 29 July 1943, Crowley went to the movies to see a cartoon film: "Saw show of cartoons lampooing Mein Kampf, with appropriate quotations. Taken in these selected doses, what a masterpiece! And how patent & profound a debt he owes to AL!" After World War II he promptly u-turned his opinion: "Himmler, the Schweinhund [sic] & worse who put Karl Germer on Concentration Camps


We do know that Crowley had dropped out of sight. Visitors were told Mr. Crowley had gone on a Masonic "Magical Retreat" to a secret place called Esopus Island. He supposedly went off to camp and canoe for over a month somewhere, writing a commentary on the ancient Chinese sage Lao Tzu. (Blackraiser)


So, did he or didn’t he? Was he ‘on retreat’ or mindphreaking Hitler in Germany in 1918? OR, most remarkably, had he mastered the psychic power of bilocation? Was he literally in both places at once? “Let’s do the timewarpp, again.” Although Crowley's absences do seem to link up with important periods in Hitler's life it would be difficult for him to have pulled this off throughout WWII without anyone noticing.

reply to post by 12.21.12

Not that it is Mrs Bush's fault what her mother did, but you can see the resemblance, I heard the story years ago about Crowley and his week of sex magic which included well to be truthful, the whole story scares the crap out of me, it's a link they would rather go away, but there was a direct link between Crowley and Mrs Bush's mum disappearing at the same time after meeting in London at a party.

Crowley's supposed sex Magic was supposed to have lasted a week, and I don't know how true it is the story reported that along came Barbara nine months later?

It was a documentary I watched, it also linked him to British Secret Service after being invited by Ian Fleming to interview Hess after his flight to meet the Aristo's in Scotland, but apparently officially the top dogs refused to allow it, however they wont open the files for some time yet, but there where links to Crowley and a book supposed to have been in the possession of Hess, a book of Magic reported to be thousands of years old, some of it practised by Himler in his search for the ultimate power.

Hess had possession of the book, and Fleming thought Crowley could help decipher it's contents, how true the actual story was I don't know, but stories of such a book in NAZI hands has popped up several times.

But as has already been said there is a lot that needs to be told in these stories, because there has been so much hidden to protect people who are still alive, and a lot of it is British Secret Archives.

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Switch-Over: The Great Change

In his 1983 book The Leader and the Damned, Colin Forbes was perhaps first to make popular the idea that Adolf Hitler's double may have been responsible for the final horrors of the Second World War. Forbes points to a 1943 bomb attack on the Fuhrer's private plane as the time for the "switch-over" between the real Hitler and his impostor. But recent studies indicate that the greatest change in Adolf Hitler's personality (and physical appearance) took place long before he became well-known. It happened in 1918, while Hitler was still a soldier at the end of World War I.

About two months after winning the Iron Cross, Hitler was blinded by mustard gas during a battle. He was taken to the Pasewalk military hospital in northern Germany where he was diagnosed as suffering from "psychopathic hysteria." Hitler was consequently placed under the care of a psychiatrist, Dr. Edmund Forster. What exactly was done to Hitler while under Dr. Forster's care is uncertain because years later, in 1933, the Gestapo rounded up all psychiatric records related to Hitler's treatment and destroyed them. Dr. Forster "committed suicide" in that same year.

In a work published in the History of Childhood Quarterly, psycho-historian Dr. Rudolph Binion suggested that Hitler's psychopathic visions may have been deliberately induced by the military hospital psychiatrist, Edmund Forster. Dr. Binion cited a book completed in 1939 entitled, Der Augenzeuge (The Eyewitness), written by a Jewish doctor named Ernst Weiss who knew Dr. Forster and had fled Germany in 1933. It is a thinly fictionalized account of Hitler's "miracle cure." As a follow-up in a published review, David Bonnell recently summarized the Pasewalk puzzle:

There is considerable controversy regarding precisely when Hitler became driven to destroy the Jews and dominate the world. There is strong evidence, however, that the 'hate and pain' which characterized Hitler's speeches in 1919 and afterward, as well as his fanatical purpose, were not in evidence prior to his psychiatric treatment.

Oh my God!

OK just to sum up what I just learned. ON page 2 I had to go back because I linked the wrong source.

Heres the correct source again.
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Anyhow, this guy germer has the same relationship to Crowley as Hitler did.

Crowley’s representative in Germany, who came over to America after being released from Nazi confinement (he was jailed for being an associate of the "High Grade Freemason Aleister Crowley

He was jailed for his association with Crowley, and also like Hitler did some time in a camp, allegedly however it was Hitler who was allegedly Crowleys doppleganger from 1918. Are you connecting the dots?

The wiki entry has no picture and very little info but this guy Karl Germer was made chief of the OTO by Crowley himself after the war and shortly before Crowleys disappearance.

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Yes, this stuff is almost enough to make my head want to explode.

I am still looking into the Bush thing.

Crowley was a founding member of the British PsyOps Tavistock Institute and probably helped extend it to the US after WWII. His did recruit John Lenon and made the Beatle's famous, ending Paul's life in a Yellow Rescue Helicopter which "sank" off the Pacific Coast. The satanic hand signs used by the 3 remaining Beatles and Paul's replacement during the Yellow Submarine promotion can attest, they were pointing the finger at the culprits.

Crowley was a British Intelligence officer who requested and obtained from the US Army during or immediately after WWI the photos and personnel records of soldiers enlisted in the German army. It has been construed that he selected Hitler from these photos for programming in the UK, Hitler went there for extended stays prior to infiltrating the Thule society and penetrating the occult circles from which the Nazis emerged. He unofficially and later officially visited Hitler often.

Prescott Bush was a member of the Nazi plan for worldwide domination through the destruction of the United States of America, followed by the institution of a luciferian world government knicknamed the New World Order. His son followed in his father's footsteps, marrying Crowley's illegitimate daughter granting his family an ideological ascendent over the satanistic members of this Illuminati takeover of our planet. Their own son Junior was thus Crowley's grandson, and we can suppose that Crowley would be very happy indeed at their ritual sacrifice during the Twin Towers soul feast as well as the utter havoc and destruction brought to other nations.

Crowley was not Hitler, extensive study of photos from various eras show significant facial differences at various ages. However, it is likely that he was Hitler's "creator" and ultimate handler, although much of that task was later relegated to Eva Braun. There is something beyond Crowley, extending to many institutions and organizations, which together can today vie for designation as the "most evil man on Earth".

The CIA was not infiltrated and subverted, it was created by these guys under the dubious guise of protecting the USA while their loyalties were entirely "other". Freemasonry made Crowley the highest honored member with the most advanced status in all of its branches and associated sects. They are also Luciferian associates of this master plan although lower downs know little if anything of its demonic intent.

Zionists are also closely associated with this design, having come either from false Judaism (covens hiding as legitimate religious or patriotic groups) or from non Judaic complicit interests engaged in supremacist acts to destroy both democracy and human rights in the long run. Intelligence agencies from various countries are complicit either under the illusion of thus protecting their interests or to ensure their place in the coming NWO.

The Illuminati are the frail and most distasteful 'human' element, if you forgive me for stretching the use of that word. Expediency and repulsion for basic humanity are characteristic of their behavior, bringing them to act in ways we sometimes cannot comprehend as we are indeed not peas from the same pod. In their book good is evil and evil is good. It is a world turned upside down, and they are thus in the process of contaminating our own world by turning it upside down from the inside out.

Crowley isn't Hitler, but the issue isn't who to blame as the key EVIL person but to awaken to the nature of evil and what people, institutions and organizations promote it and to what end. Human sacrifice being one of their rituals, we should not be surprised to see them engage in further efforts to destroy souls and commit greater genocides in the name of sustainable ecology and population control.

Far from illusory paranoia, biological weapons are already deployed in the population, awaiting only trigger agents. The use of nuclear attacks has also been disguised under the appearance of unknown rogue criminals with the disappearance of 3 nuclear warheads loaded from the Russian Kursk submarine onto the underprotected and conveniently hijacked Arctic Sea cargo ship.

666 is not a man, it is a group working steadily at bringing forth Hell on Earth. They're doing a pretty good job so far, and will achieve their end unless each of us opposes them in every way possible.

Regarding the title of this thread, I thought this element might clarify substantially that Crowley was not Hitler.


Crowley may have, from time to time, replaced Hitler in various circumstances given that Crowley was a British Spy and used disguises, what is more likely given their Occult ties, with Hitler being Crowley's Magick Child and his apprentice in Liverpool in 1912-1913, was that Crowley was Hitler's Illuminati Handler.


Do dispel the idea that Crowley was Hitler and to show his close proximity to Hitler during the Rise of the IIIrd Reich, here you can see him photographed next to Hitler in this posting in the Clone Conspiracy thread:


Crowley as dressed like a Man In Black behind Hitler


Hitler had in common with Barbara Bush that they were both Magick Children of Aleister Crowley born of Satanic Occult Ritual.

reply to post by Getsmart


The image of Bush beside Merkel is frightening; they really do look very similar

I'm intrigued by the idea of a kind of worldwide doppelganger conspiracy. In fact, I suspect it happens with chilling regularity, and is probably linked in some very sinister ways to, among other things, the remnants of MK-Ultra/Monarch.

But there's no reason to drag Crowley into the equation. That's hack scholarship or hack science fiction. It's the result of a "researcher" who is working with only a limited cast of Officially Recognized Sinister Celebrities who were somehow involved in every dirty deed and shady deal that happened during their lifetimes.

Crowley was brilliant. Charismatic. He was also a self-promoting, self-mythologizing blowhard who wrote, by his own gloating account, an "auto-hagiography" in his memoirs. He was, in fact, the perfect shill.

I suspect he was in contact with some truly sinister figures. I suspect he had knowledge of their designs and machinations. I also suspect he was too lazy and hedonistic to be involved, even though he was one of the few people alive who could do the math and live with the consequences. Crowley probably did more than any figure of the 20th century to distract inquisitive minds from what was really going on. Even decades later, he's still a highly effective harlequin, still leading researchers down blind alleys.

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I think the theories about him replacing Hitler are totally wrong, but the possibility of him being with those guiding Hitler is, in my opinion, possilbe.

And the pics of Barb Bush and Crowley side by side still freak me out

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what an awsome read you have provided sir!

Crowley was NOT Hitler

reply to post by RFBurns


I have to agree. I like the other theory better. The one that makes
Bush a decendant of Crowley.

Get Smart.

I'd like to hear from some of the
atheists that frequent this site for religious debate. Seems like you don't hear to much from them in threads like this.
I believe every bit of what you wrote. Unless it is pointed at I would never have had a clue.

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