Marine: Unit Was Ordered to 'Crank Up Violence Level' in Iraq, page 3

Originally posted by hoochymama
The bottom line, whether these are the Marines or the Army, is that they FOLLOW ORDERS. These Soldiers MUST follow orders or be kicked out of whatever affiliation of the Military Industrial Complex they are apart of.

These Soldiers are brainwashed to the extreme and do not make there own rules. The RULES are handed down from there superiors. There Superiors have there orders as well and they DO NOT QUESTION THERE ORDERS.

The Bush Regime needs to go down and fast.

This is simply not true, soldiers are trained to follow orders unless the order given is not a lawfull order as per the UCMJ. "uniform code of military justice" An example of a unlawfull order would be to kill innocent people. The directive of any soldier is to stand up for those who cant protect themselves bottom line.

Brainwashed? LOL give me a break, Soldiers are absolutly trained to distinquish lawful orders from unlawful orders. Are there rouge officers in the military? Im sure there is but dont lump every soldier into your sterotypeing and lableing. The same (brainwashing) could be said of everyone who blindly agrees with something before they do thier own research. I see alot of that here on ATS!!!

ill give you this one because i dont feel this administration is doing the right things. Maybe they are lining their pockets, prob are but that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. This unit took matters into thier own hands and now they cry "I was following orders" to try and save thier collective asses.

In Addition;

I am ex Military (Army) and I wasn’t brain washed as you state. Yes we are trained to kill the enemy and trained to follow orders. However we are also trained to know what a lawful order is and what is not. Telling the troops to ratchet up the violence and commit murder is not a Lawful order and should not be carried out. These soldiers took matters into their own hands and should be punished. Sad as it may be many of our young men and women are put into situations that they simply can’t deal with. Situations they simply aren’t trained well enough for or have ever been in before. The result is a lack of discipline on the battle field and snap decisions which often result with horrible circumstances. Plain and simple this unit couldn’t find their target so they killed an innocent human and tried to cover it up by placing the AK47 in the hands of the dead man.
My point is dont blame the Military in whole for a botched mission. I would say the leader of this squad was the main problum here and did not follow the rules of engagement.

I don’t believe this order was ever given to the unit and until I see concrete evidence to show they were told to push the violence then all we have here are soldiers who committed murder under the banner of oh well its war so S happens.

The Military is no different than real life in that individuals will be held accountable for their actions. This soldier is no different and should be held accountable for his actions.

I find it concerning that here most blame the Army not the individual. Must not be too many people here who have actually been in the military and know of what I speak, as far as how soldiers are trained. So until you join the military and stand a post don’t presume to know anything about it!!!

Edited becasue im an idiot and couldnt figure out how to quote and respond properly.

[edit on 16-7-2007 by geemony]