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If you have a cell phone, The FBI can hear you.

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posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by Astyanax

Privacy is not everywhere recognized as a natural and inalienable right. It is not recognized as such in, for example, the United States of America:


I think the only place it is protected is in the US Mail where it is a felony to open other peoples mail, even for a Postal Worker.

In a town I lived in about ten years ago some Postal Workers decided to open some undelivered mail after a flood and they learned the hard way. They became the most hated people in town and the Postal Authorities came down on them like a ton of bricks after the courts filled up with people filing law suits and criminal complaints.




posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
You mean i can actually power my phone off and in the "privacy" of my living room go into a rant about the government and be listened to?

I think i'll put it to the test. In any case, the tv is also watching us, so is our web cams and that big fly i cant get rid of in my house...that was sent by the government.

When are they opening up the camps? I must pack.


Ha Ha! I think my cat has a listening device! Really, I feel like my cat has a listening device. Every time my cat dies, another just shows up in my yard. This newest one is tame, already housebroken, etc. I wonder if someone put a listening device in it?



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Terapin
Cell Phone triangulation is not something that generally can be done. To triangulate your position they would need three detection sources. When you are talking on your cell Phone only ONE tower is receiving your signal.


In a built up area you are very likely to be in range of any number of BTS sites - remember they don’t have to even be the same network, just so long as they are GSM and on the same frequency as your phone (irreverent nowadays because almost all phones can operate on both the UK frequencies which are 900mhz and 1800mhz).

Every so often your phone will automatically update with the network, just to see if a better reception can be had, or If you home location register needs to be uploaded to the local computer (that’s only if you’ve changed area for an extended period of time - like more than a month).

Your phone can even be 'forced' to scan for the BTS nodes by the network.

Have you even had your phone interfere with other equipment - making you think your going to get a message or a call - but you don't. That is you phone looking for a better signal.

Two and a half years working for the ungrateful sods weren’t wasted then!



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 11:40 AM
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OK Did anyone bother to read the very horrendous thread on BTS about the Mom who video taped giving the extasy to the little 4 year old girl?
Seemed like I was the only one to post on it last I checked. My whole point after the mad rave of personal attack and opinion was "Where is homeland defence?"
We are systematically loosing our privacy and our ability to have a private email or conversation supposedly, but then when someone posts something like this it is able to escape the prying eyes of our gov. officials.
I think it is for the most part b.s. they are not checking on people like you and me, so stop being so paranoid, they are busy checking on people they have profiled as terrorists. There I said it.
One more thing, if your child disappears, who ya gonna call? The secrets of the counterintelligence agency are necessary in many respects and if they need permission to spread a wider net to ward off suitcase nukes and the like then so be it. Is it unfortunate that if you watch snuff videos or child porn you will be caught? I for one think that is a good deal for the victims.



posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 04:01 AM
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That does not surprise me at all.

I have read in the past that not only is your video phone recording every conversation, but it is also sending a direct data stream of your 'off' line use as well.

Our tvs are plugged into a land line where the cable company can track our choice of shows.

Our internet companies know what sites we visit.

Is it so farfetched to think that all this data is being sent to intelligence agencies for the sake of 'national security?'

Bush was given essentially dictatorial powers with the Patriot Act which was passed in 2001.

He has the ability to legally wiretap (warrantless wiretapping) anyone he deems as anti-American. That could be your coworker for posting a Bush satire on his blog, that could be a lesbian couple who got married in Massachusetts because they aren't 'Christian' enough...The list goes on.

Cell phones, tvs, computers, all tapped.

No surprise there.

I just don't worry about it.

If we give in to the fear, the powers that be will have accomplished their objectives.

Continue to post and read whatever you wish. Share your materials in hopes that someone will read it and be changed for the better.

But action must be taken against our illegal federal government. They have entrenched themselves against the Constitution, which is considered a 'goddamn piece of paper' by 'King' George who wishes his bloodline (Windsor I believe?) to rule America once more.

Doesn't George look like his cousin Prince Charles?


educate-yourself.org...

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

www.shilohouse.org...

www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

www.greaterthings.com...

planetquo.com...



posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by antar
I think it is for the most part b.s. they are not checking on people like you and me, so stop being so paranoid, they are busy checking on people they have profiled as terrorists. There I said it.


While I can certainly understand your perspective of things, my concern is not the result of fear of being arrested for illeagal activity but fear of getting used to watching my constitutional rights dissapear for my own well being. I liken it to the heat slowly being turned up in a boiling pot of water so we (the frogs) don't realizing were boiling to death.



posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 09:56 AM
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Too many people are too paranoid not to believe everything the news puts out. Aren't they run by the government too? I have a couple good friends that work for the FBI in non-classifed sectors doing some very good work for the community, and even they say it's crap. Off is off.

The only way to turn on your phone and listen to it is if it had a "power ready" status like a home reciever. Even then, this would be pointless and a waste of money to do to every phone.



posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 10:30 AM
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People must start fight for their freedom.



posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Kingalbrect79
Off is off.

The only way to turn on your phone and listen to it is if it had a "power ready" status like a home reciever. Even then, this would be pointless and a waste of money to do to every phone.


I wish people would read through the replys within a thread before posting. I have posted information that says: No, off is not always off. This form of survellience has already been used in the arresting and prosecuting of two mob personalities.



posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by antar
I think it is for the most part b.s. they are not checking on people like you and me, so stop being so paranoid, they are busy checking on people they have profiled as terrorists. There I said it.


I do not think that this is an issue of paranoia. It is not a fear of 'they are watching [listening] to me'. It is an awareness of the steady draining of our rights and freedoms. By allowing one action you open the door to the next.

Rights do not get taken away in a sweeping and unpopular wave of action. Rather, rights are slowly picked apart under a guise of protection. When something such as this happens it is always trumpeted with calls of catching terrorists or any other 'bad guy' flavor of the week.

So perhaps those of us who are genuinely upset with the gradual loss of our freedoms (particularly of privacy in recent months) are not acting through paranoia. Rather, paranoia is guiding the actions of those who allow manufactured fear to guide their judgment; those who allow the stripping of their freedom for 'our own benefit'.



posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 11:15 AM
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My apologies spines, I must have missed that. I am working in a moving car on a laptop.


Either way, it has been stated before here in this topic that our freedoms are slowly being infringed upon. I for one am not one to give in so easily.

As Voltaire said, "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it." .



posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 12:40 PM
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Also, Onstar systems and ones similar can be used by the FBI in the same way. They can listen to you in your car all they want if your car comes equiped with it.



posted on Aug, 22 2007 @ 01:16 PM
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Darn the story was broke a month ago- Oh well but I have a idea how to fix these bozo's get a bull horn and yell-


"Can you hear me now!!"

The video-
www.youtube.com...


News links
news.zdnet.com...

news.com.com...



posted on Aug, 22 2007 @ 01:30 PM
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wow we really are slowly being thrown into a cage and being put under full suveilence it is completely outrageous that they can do this, but it comes to no suprise to me, people who say oh it will not affect them they have nothing to hide have no idea whut they are saying maybe right now you have nothing to hide but once the government has a very strong control over the people they will start bringing in horrible laws which everyone will be against, even the absent minded people who felt they had nothing to hide, but nobody will really be able to do anything about it because we all did nothing in the first place to stop the laws that will prove fatal in the future



posted on Aug, 22 2007 @ 04:38 PM
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They can listen to you in your car if your car is "Bluetooth ready" and they stay fairly close. It's tough to do.



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 06:54 AM
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Took them long enough I remember over ten years ago having an Oki 900 with modified eprom and being able to listen in on the their cell phones and able to break into the converse taking place among other things.

As far as that story goes you wouldn't have to remove the battery just cut the power. Second I highly doubt you could have your mic transmit like that without the phone being configured properly. However there is a add on device and a whole phone that can do that. You call a certain number and it pics up any audio in the mics range. When you call the extra number the phone doesn't ring.

www.eyespymag.com...
www.buzzle.com...
news.com.com...

[edit on 23-8-2007 by diedagaincraftsmen]



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 07:14 AM
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We have one cell phone and it hardly ever leaves it's charger. It's for emergency purposes and for vacations only.

If they want to listen in .. I don't care. They'll get bored fast.


I'm sure they have better things to do.



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by spines

Originally posted by Kingalbrect79
Off is off.

The only way to turn on your phone and listen to it is if it had a "power ready" status like a home reciever. Even then, this would be pointless and a waste of money to do to every phone.


I wish people would read through the replys within a thread before posting. I have posted information that says: No, off is not always off. This form of survellience has already been used in the arresting and prosecuting of two mob personalities.


However like someone stated above don't believe the news agencies right away, I agree. It's not hard for the FBI to call a service provider and have them kill a phone and instruct the owner to go to x location for warranty replacement and bam x person has your equipment. Much in Canada putting an agent in Mcdonald's to give change which happens to be a coin with listening device to the target. I have yet to see a phone that was off even draw .001 of power. That by the way is how you find anything out of the ordinary is get base numbers on power draw and watch for increases.

As far as the mob bit if they pleaded not guilty I would like to see the evidence reports unless it was sealed which I doubt. Have you or anyone seen these online? Not even sure who the mob guys were that was mentioned in the video.



posted on Aug, 27 2007 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
You mean i can actually power my phone off and in the "privacy" of my living room go into a rant about the government and be listened to?

I think i'll put it to the test. In any case, the tv is also watching us, so is our web cams and that big fly i cant get rid of in my house...that was sent by the government.

When are they opening up the camps? I must pack.


They really can listen to lots of things! The arguments with my husband are kind of embarrassing, but other than that, I can't imagine why they would want to listen to me. Except, sometimes, a friend and I get into conversations about "Who Killed Kennedy?" Going to Wal-Mart, church and the grocery store is not too exciting, LOL! Anyway, read the book "Surveillance Society" by Grant Jeffrey! We really don't have much privacy!



posted on Sep, 15 2007 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555

Use a Land Line if it is a problem. Then they need a warrant to listen to anything.



Wrong. You've obviously never heard of the Patriot Act.



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