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Topic started on 14-7-2007 @ 04:01 PM by aecreate

Newly Released Bin Laden Video Calls for Martyrdom


www.cnn.com
(CNN) -- Osama bin Laden stresses the importance of martyrdom for Muslim causes in a videotape that purportedly contains a 50-second message from the al Qaeda leader.

The 40-minute videotape, whose audio was being translated from Arabic by CNN, was intercepted before it was to appear on several Islamist Web sites known for carrying statements from al Qaeda and other radical groups.
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reply posted on 14-7-2007 @ 06:33 PM by aecreate
50-second clip here:
Bin Laden Appears On Tape, Calls for Martyrdom (Video)

Officials: New Bin Laden Message Released
US officials are confirming a new tape of Osama Bin Laden has surfaced Saturday.

They say it is being analyzed to confirm it’s indeed Bin Laden, although they concede that there has not been a faked tape from him in the past.

Those who’ve seen the tape say Bin Laden looks visibly older on the tape. Parts of his beard have turned grey. He is also wearing fatigues.


Looks like Osama to me, but whether or not its recent footage or old, I can't say.
It's just very suspicious to have these two tapes released so soon after "gut feelings"
and reports of al-Qaeda sneaking cells into the country, etc.. etc..

Zawahri:
Have I not conveyed? Oh God be my witness.
Have I not conveyed? Oh God be my witness.
Have I not conveyed? Oh God be my witness.

Osama:
I would love to attack and be martyred,
then attack again and be martyred,
then attack again and be martyred.


reply posted on 14-7-2007 @ 07:26 PM by Sky Eyes
Originally posted by aecreate
50-second clip here:
Bin Laden Appears On Tape, Calls for Martyrdom (Video)


Those who’ve seen the tape say Bin Laden looks visibly older on the tape. Parts of his beard have turned grey. He is also wearing fatigues.



It seems the last time I saw a pic of him he was wearing cammies and sporting great streaks of grey in his beard, any changes?

Aecreate--"Looks like Osama to me, but whether or not its recent footage or old, I can't say.
It's just very suspicious to have these two tapes released so soon after "gut feelings"
and reports of al-Qaeda sneaking cells into the country, etc.. etc.."

Aecreate, I was in a discussion the other day about this and my stand was that I would be very shocked to find him still alive and traipsin' through the hills and deserts. Didn't we see a couple/few years ago pics of an abandoned dialysis machine in a cave he had supposedly abandoned?

My point being, only a person worth keeping around would merit outback dialysis, and once needed isn't it a bit of a necessity to the recipient? Unless the pic was dis-info in and of itself. I would say that he was dead a few years back, yet his "spirit" lives on for the spurring of his masses. I may have to eat my hat for that statement, but it's what I feel. (Pass the salt please, oh, and another beer!)


reply posted on 15-7-2007 @ 02:03 AM by makeitso
Thanks for the reports aecreate.

I guess you can tell by the lack of response this thread got that OBL and his buddies have become more of a joke than something to be overly concerned about.

I was out fishing when the report was released, so I didn't see the news about this new video. Your posts did peak my interest a little bit though so I did some digging.

I found several reports showing some strong evidence that the video clip of OBL is from between Oct. 2001 - March 2002.
Heres one of the reports. Some sites also note that its not even OBL's voice in the few seconds he is in the video. It was dubbed over.

So if he's alive, why are they down to showing re-runs? And why does he hide like a coward instead of showing his face and taking a chance of getting martyred like he tries to talk others into doing?

Either way it seems like AQ's day is 'bout over. Heck, they can't even get a simple car b0mb at an airport to work right nowadays. Perhaps this article talks about that stuff much better than I could.

No matter who is behind AQ, if nothing transpires, or a new major attack fails, I suspect the the goodwill and funding from their buddies will dry up pretty soon, cuz AQ is loosing credibility fast. (see link above)

On the other hand, if the video does signal a new major attack and it succeeds, I think its clear that they'll probably loose a couple more countries lickety split. Then the goodwill and funding from their buddies will go away because of their anger over that.

AQ is screwed either way.

Unfortunatly even if AQ goes away, I suspect others will follow in their footsteps for quite some time to come.

Just my 2 cents.


reply posted on 15-7-2007 @ 07:09 PM by aecreate
Originally posted by UM_Gazz
Dead or alive may be irrelevant, the use of Bin Laden in video, could be a signal to activate terrorist cells, or planned attacks.

Just one possibility.

Of course it could be simply more Al Qaeda scare tactics.


He's definitely dead, but the use of Osama in a video is significant.
The release of this video three days after Zawahiri is significant.
Both videos issuing 'three-line' islamic warnings is quite significant.
Heh, and I kind of wonder if our media help put that word out..?

Maybe three days after the Osama tape...? July 17th?

Originally posted by iggster
There is one thing about the whole coverage of this video that really has me wondering. Reading about it on msnb.com They state several times that the government believes it was taped prior to 9/11. Now I will not claim to be the brightest light bulb in the bunch but I wonder just how prior it was and if the was the message that set the wheels in motion for the 9/11 attacks. So I wish there was a way to find out if this was the trigger for that event and if we should be a little more vigilant than we already are?

Awesome observation. That coupled with the 3-warnings, and the use of Osama in how long? Very curious..

makeitso,
Anytime, just trying to keep everyone informed and up-to-date.
Thank you for the articles. If AQ is indeed desperate for a major success,
I would not underestimate them at this point in time, especially after the
reports of them gaining strength recently. The second article was from
Oct. 2006, so its possible they have increased their abilities since, even
more than we may know.


[edit on 7/15/2007 by aecreate]


reply posted on 15-7-2007 @ 08:59 PM by aecreate
More info on the video (with clear pics):

Bin Laden appears in new web video
“The happy (person) is the one chosen by Allah to be a martyr,” bin Laden said in a short clip which was included in a videotape titled 'Winds of Martyrdom', and carried by the Washington-based SITE Intelligence Group. SITE said that the footage was old, but did not give an estimated date.


'Winds of Martyrdom'
Anyone have any information on that?
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