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Clinton and Richardson candidates for disclosure

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posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by carot
Why is UFO a matter of national security if they claim that UFO dont exist.


Because they are LYING!!!




posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by carot
Why is UFO a matter of national security if they claim that UFO dont exist. America is very dumb country, without true democracy, almost worst than many other country in the world. She is lying to its own people and to the all world.


I'm sure whatever country you're from is the best country in all of the Universe. However, whatever happens in America affects the rest of the world, so you'd better start praying or whatever it is you do in your super fantastic space country if you want the future to be a little less bleak.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 05:23 PM
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You know what I would like to see come election time, whether in America or the UK is for "Joe Public" to not bother voting, I would love to see the counts of 0 for all parties involved and the WTF do we do now reaction on the politicians faces.

Perhaps if that happened then just maybe the voice of the common man and woman would be heard again for the first time in a long time.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 05:38 PM
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More than the usual 45% could take 10 minutes to vote and make a difference. That way, people won't think we don't give a # anymore, our voices will be heard and we won't wake up to find some kind of weird loophole that says our leaders stay in power for the next 4 billion years.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 05:56 PM
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Hell, they've been shapeshifting for the last 150 years. We've only had four presidents since Hamilton, and he was the first shapeshifter.

Haven't you ever noticed how the minute they get in office they change into the same old song and dance? They kill and eat the new president and vice president and take their place.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Xerimethius
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More than the usual 45% could take 10 minutes to vote and make a difference. That way, people won't think we don't give a # anymore, our voices will be heard and we won't wake up to find some kind of weird loophole that says our leaders stay in power for the next 4 billion years.



Do you really believe that if you vote then whoever gets in power cares for you, sorry you and me are too far down the ladder of importance to get noticed, you by voting have just made yourself yet another number in the world of politics.

Please understand that by not voting is another way of voting and therefore democracy, if democracy even counts for something these days, should be called demonocracy by the way the so called leaders decide what is best for us.

Give up on politics and try saying hello to a total stranger or even your neighbour, you will get more response back than you do from an elected official.

Wolfie



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 06:26 PM
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Why would I believe whomever I voted for would care for or about me? They can not care about me as much as they want. As long as they get this ship in tip top shape, it doesn't matter to me. FOR THE EMPIRE! and all the jazz. By not voting, you're not really making a statement. You're just making it easier for someone the very active loonies admire to take office. If all but one person decided to vote, we'd all be #ed. Where would that leave us?

Right where we began.


[edit on 11-7-2007 by Xerimethius]



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 06:28 PM
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John Podesta was often into the disclosure of UFO extraterrestrials and the whole phenomena. He was Clinton's chief of staff. He was pushing for serious disclosure back then. I remember seeing a video of him in action. He was dead serious about the whole UFO disclosure. He was sent by Mr Bill Clinton to see what he dug up.

I will show you a story on how these three had a few parties wich odley enough were themed extraterrestrial parties. Podesta says he was not into parties but if they had some sort of ET theme he was sure to be there. They were really into this subject back then. Of course podesta was the one that most had interest in all of this.

Here read this article here

Some stories on Podestas UFO disclosure work.

Cnn story



[edit on 11-7-2007 by The Coward]



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by Wolfie_UK
Do you really believe that if you vote then whoever gets in power cares for you, sorry you and me are too far down the ladder of importance to get noticed, you by voting have just made yourself yet another number in the world of politics.

Yeah, I sometimes have arguments with the polling booth officials. I refuse to take the ballot sheets once my name is checked off. I just walk out on them while they sit there dumbfounded holding the papers.

Living in Australia, they force me to attend to vote, but they can't force me to vote. What a friggin' joke 'democracy' is, when the majority of the population is lied to, every single day, by elected officials. I don't want to be governed!

None of the US Presidents will ever disclose, nor will the US government. As pointed out before, the only hope of any 'official' disclosure will come from another, probably 'rogue' country, just so they can shove it up the arse of the USA.



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 06:16 AM
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If clinton brought a dead alien to my house i STILL wouldn't vote for her .
It would be a sad day indeed if the first woman pres would be clinton .
Very sad .



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Wolfie_UK
You know what I would like to see come election time, whether in America or the UK is for "Joe Public" to not bother voting, I would love to see the counts of 0 for all parties involved and the WTF do we do now reaction on the politicians faces.



Then they'd place some dictator in office. What you are proposing would never work... As a matter of fact, part of the reason stuff is in a mess now is because of the people who don't bother to vote.



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by carot
Why is UFO a matter of national security if they claim that UFO dont exist. America is very dumb country, without true democracy, almost worst than many other country in the world. She is lying to its own people and to the all world.


Not sure if I would call America a dumb country, without a true democracy. It may not be a perfect system, however it is a hell of a lot better than some other places around the world, especially the 3rd world countries. As for being dumb lol maybe alot of the common population but not the people in charge. (Bush is a puppet, not really in charge like most of our presidents)
Back to the topic I would neither vote for the Grove member Richardson or the con artist Hillary no matter what they say of bringing about disclosure. We need a real American like Ron Paul in charge of this country, a man who I beleive truly cares about the contsitution and everything it stands for and will fight to keep our freedoms.



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 10:49 AM
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Why is UFO a matter of national security if they claim that UFO dont exist.


Energy secrets or development are out right banned under National Security reasons. Lyne points out a Carburetor used for the Sherman tank got
30 mpg and was immediately withheld from commercial use.

So if UFO has Helium electric or mechanical engines to genetate
high frequency a/c for flight controls and other such unknown goodies,
you see how un fortuitous and unlawful it is the disclose anything.

Its best to speculate with the best of them and perhaps invest in the basic raw materials and
companies used in making UFO and Energy devices.

I always though GE was involved since they took over some much
of Tesla's inventions. But 10 years on non growth means only that
the raw materials need to be looked at.



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