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Lust of the flesh.

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posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 10:26 PM
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I wanted to post something on this sin, something I myself am not free from guilt of, especially of the eyes and I will pay for it.

I think women are sexualized today to an amazing degree, but if you think about this deeply, just remember what they market.

The backside of women is sexuallized beyond measure. Something God created for a cushion to sit on, this is why God created it, likewise womens Breast holds the milk to feed their children, and this is sexualized today.


I wish to God, that it was like the days of old, where women had to cover up, and this time will come back and it will be like the days of old. It is very hard for men today, this is why the saints said they wish they could have lived in todays world so that they could go through the test of today which takes all your faith to be saved from this stuff.


So Christians who read this, lets pray for each other if we have temptations, and lets pray for others, because Mary said at Fatima that more souls go to hell for sins of the flesh than any other reason.


peace.




posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 10:35 PM
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Yea you are right god did create all the wonderful parts on the woman. And women are a part of man and man is in the image of god. So we are only admiring god when we admire women.
imo we are lusting for god



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 10:59 PM
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Yea, you sound like my brother. This lust causes rape dear man and spilling your seed which is masturbation.

But people dont believe in possesion, which scripture talks about, you literally feel possed, I know it has happened to me as well.

But good smart minded Christians know what im talking about.

Or are you just kidding with that argument earth 2?

peace.



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 11:53 PM
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Never heard such utter claptrap, the word extreamist wass made just for you!

If you so desperatly want "your" women covered up, move to Saudi and convert. Failing that you should join a order of monks somewhere, never look at another woman and stay away from the PC for it is filled with pornography and I know you must be tempted to have a little looky see.

Well remember in the book of "Chikeymonkey" page 1

"No touchy touchy!"

And also page 69

"Thou shalt not spank thy monkey on a sunday."




posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 12:52 AM
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JesusisTruth, I also believe that women are over-sexualized in the media today. But, centuries ago it wasn't too different. Just look at Roman statues of naked women and goddesses, or medieval/Renaissance paintings of damsels in distress. If I had photoshoppe on this laptop, I would show you the comparisons, but I don't so I can't.

The big difference though, is that these paintings and statues were aesthetic and beautiful. They showed the beauty and mystic of women, but today's media is more like "blatant soft-core porn in mass media sells." Just look at Paris Hilton.

By the way, don't worry about ChieyMonkey. Nobody takes him seriously anyways. :shk:



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by TheB1ueSoldier
JesusisTruth, I also believe that women are over-sexualized in the media today. But, centuries ago it wasn't too different. Just look at Roman statues of naked women and goddesses, or medieval/Renaissance paintings of damsels in distress. If I had photoshoppe on this laptop, I would show you the comparisons, but I don't so I can't.

The big difference though, is that these paintings and statues were aesthetic and beautiful. They showed the beauty and mystic of women, but today's media is more like "blatant soft-core porn in mass media sells." Just look at Paris Hilton.

By the way, don't worry about ChieyMonkey. Nobody takes him seriously anyways. :shk:


Good I hope nobody ever takes me seriously, that way I won't ever offend anyone and generally speaking I'll always have a good time.

Just me and my monkey: getting down! Hot damm!

The whole woe is me the world is full of temptation rubbish is just that: rubbish. You don't need God, Jesus, Allah, The Flying Spaghetti Monster or any other half baked pie in the sky idea to be a good person, you just need yourself and the instant logic of right and wrong.

And if I catch anyone taking me seriously I'll pour molten jam through their letterbox!




posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 01:53 AM
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Why should we be covered up just because you can't stop lusting? Sounds like YOU should be the one to stop the thoughts and let women decide what to wear for themselves. You got an issue and women must pay the price for it? Pfffft not this one.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by ChiKeyMonKeyThe whole woe is me the world is full of temptation rubbish is just that: rubbish. You don't need God, Jesus, Allah, The Flying Spaghetti Monster or any other half baked pie in the sky idea to be a good person, you just need yourself and the instant logic of right and wrong.


Chi you rock! You just said it perfectly. I'm not going to be forced to cover up because someones got a flaw and can't get a grip.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 06:16 AM
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what did george orwell show as the biggest means towards control of a populace in his acclaimed dystopian novel 1984? control of sex.

i think that speaks for itself

and nice job, chi. it is obvious when you look at it that morality comes from humans instead of religion.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 06:22 AM
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You should move to afghanistan and become a taliban, all the women there wear burkha's...

Who do you think you are to impose your will on women???

[edit on 11-7-2007 by DarkSide]



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 07:42 AM
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Lust of the flesh.
I realize the women have this issue too, but I'm going to pick on men since they're more visually stimulated than women.

Men are supposed to be sexually attracted to women. If they were not, people would have died off long ago. Let's face it. The urge for sex in men is pretty high. Not as high as air water or sleep but pretty close. Women were created to be attractive to men. Again, for good cause. Given that we're created to want women, and women are designed to be wanted you can see how easy it is to get into this subject.

A wise old preacher once said that it was the second look that got you into trouble. There's nothing wrong with seeing a woman and thinking "Hey! She looks very attractive." but you shouldn't be obsessive about her. That's were it crosses the line. All the rules in Christianity about sex are for good reason. Having sex outside of marriage enables the spreading of diseases. Look at Aids. (Yes,Everyone has aids) It would be easily controlled with some simple life-style changes. Aside from disease, single mothers have a harder life, and God knows you don't want to pay child support for 18 years. Seriously, people get into some stupid situations that they could have avoided if they would have thought things through to the end result.

Lusting, or obsessing about a woman leads to sin, because before we do something we have to think about it first. This prohibition against the Lust of the Flesh is a stop measure to keep you from going down this path. Women or I should say our society makes it difficult to think correctly at times (bikinis, low cut shirts, daisy dukes) but it's possible. So next time you see that girl with a nice butt and an hour-glass figure, go ahead and think "she's smoking"! Just don't let this girl take over your thoughts for the rest of the day. If you see a hot girl in the mall and you're still thinking about her half-way through the movie you're probably in lust mode. Especially if you're thinking about what she looks like naked.


Of course if you're not married and she's not married feel free to obsess a little. Just don't get carried away with it and focus solely on her "assets". All good things in moderation.

[edit on 11-7-2007 by dbates]



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 08:30 AM
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Somebody invent a time machine, quick. JiT does not belong in the modern world and would be much happier living in Judea about 2000 years ago. Of course he wouldn't have a computer to post this stuff, or modern medicine (leeches were always fun, though), a car, a standard of living that would allow for the spare time necessary to think this stuff up.

If a man can't control himself, HE needs to be locked away for the safety of society. Not women.

Funny how not one atheist I've ever met or heard of has suggested any such nonsense.

Hey, JiT, why don't you join the rest of us here in the 21st century? It's nice here, really.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth

Yea, you sound like my brother. This lust causes rape dear man and spilling your seed which is masturbation


I get so tired of hearing this sort of idiocy. Lust does not, say it after me, lust does not cause rape. Rape is, quite simply, a power trip that just incidently uses sex as the excuse. That's the sort of mindset that blames the victim. Crawl up out of the Middle Ages, JesusIsTruth, and join the rest of us in the world of today. Or join a monestary somewhere.

"oooh she had it coming, because she was wearing revealing clothing..."

"oooh she had it coming, because she was wearing a tent..." Both statement are equally valid when it comes to rape.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
If a man can't control himself, HE needs to be locked away for the safety of society.


Somebody lock me up! It's Scarlett Johansson




Looking at the picuture..."hey, she's cute" That's fine. Lusting = Setting this as my desktop wallpaper....and never opening other programs because they covered her up.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 09:28 AM
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Wowsers, dbates! It is refreshing to find some topic we can agree on in this forum.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 10:00 AM
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Extremist on either side bug me. Anything can be harmful if used improperly. God created sex and actually told Adam and Even to have kids.

Just look at the picture of Scarlett. From my (a man's) point of view she's oozing sexuality. Men are programmed/created to notice these features. You can actually break this down into a scientific discussion.

  • Facial symmetry screams good DNA stability. Believe it or not this is actually the first thing men notice and is probably the most important factor.
  • The lighter hair says "Youth" which means fertile.
  • Breast. Not just hood ornaments. Will this woman be able to nourish a new child?
  • Hip to waist ratio. Women have wider hips to allow for child-birth. Men notice if women are built correctly for this.
  • Skin clarity, teeth, other cosmetic features that show good health
  • Weight. Is she healthy?


I'll admit that lusting is an easy trap to fall into, but let's not label women as evil because we find ourselves attracted to them. Just have some control. I could say the same thing about eating. While eating is necessary to live, most Americans lust after food. Hmmm! Lust of the flesh isn't restricted to women. It means lusting or constantly thinking about things your physical body wants.

Half to two-thirds of Americans are overweight or obese. Are we fulfilling the lust of the flesh when we constantly give into our body's desire for food? Is God happy with our choices when when we get diabetes, high blood pressure, and lazy because we're fat? You're abusing your body in this manner. You know you're fat and ruining your body but you keep eating excessively anyways. That's fulfilling the lust of the flesh. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I honestly believe that.

Like I said before, all good things in moderation. That includes wine, women, and food.



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 11:27 AM
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You know, this might sound bizarre coming from someone not religious, me being agnostic and all, but I kinda somewhat agree. I hate all the sex in the media. All of it. Its annoying. Especially to me who's almost asexual. I dislike the way women are portrayed as sex objects by the media, I find it degrading.

Even though they pretty much all do it out of their own will, and usually make good money from it...well okay being a male I guess its not my business but seriously its just degrading when women sell themselves for sex, or anyone for that matter.

[edit on 7/11/2007 by Kacen]



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by ChiKeyMonKey
Good I hope nobody ever takes me seriously, that way I won't ever offend anyone and generally speaking I'll always have a good time.

I agree, ignorance is bliss so you always will have a good time.




Originally posted by ChiKeyMonKeyThe whole woe is me the world is full of temptation rubbish is just that: rubbish. You don't need God, Jesus, Allah, The Flying Spaghetti Monster or any other half baked pie in the sky idea to be a good person, you just need yourself and the instant logic of right and wrong.

Instantaneous logic of right and wrong? Humans are, unfortunately, not born with a set knowledge of right and wrong. Is there anything more cruel than a child? Think about that...



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 09:09 PM
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Good Morning B1ue Solider.

So nice to hear from you again. Here I am in the pearl of the orient, having a good time, which is still quite far from being ignorant I can assure you! While I never wish to be taken seriously, that does not mean however that you can completely dismiss my views based on the fact that I'm not serious.

Being seriously ignorant and ignorant seriously are two very different kettles of fish. Or are they, I think that could have sounded better in my own head!

As for the children. Children learn to be cruel and most of the time with the very young it is just an automatic responce to survive and protect themselves. As they get older they learn to be deliberately cruel from the actions of others and the crap that is pumped in to their poor brains from the idiot box. I spend a great deal of time with young children.

And to answer your question directly. Any dictator you care to mention, mind you I bet they all have childhood or mother issues!




posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 10:17 PM
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I am in the 20th century, but I have an old soul.

Chikey, the reason you dont need God or religion to be good is because your running on pride.

I believe in God and revealed truth, and sin and morality which God alone created the commands.

I need God, I want God, and I cant have life without him. You dont believe, but I do.


I am having as much fun as possible, with God, whom I believe in and seen work amazing wonders in my life.


Now of course you will deny it, but go ahead, you will see at the judgement seat my life in review, and you will see for yourself.

I hate arrogance, in myself and others, and souls know whos trying to be arrogant or not.



About rape. Like I said. You dont believe in possesion and I do. It might not cause rape as much as masturbation which is a sin, but it does put more images into mens minds so satan can work on that.


And of course masturbation, which our the seed God has given to us that he does not want us to waste.

God does not want us to be of the flesh but of the spirit. And yes sex was given by God and its good, but only if its mixed with grace, not lust which doesnt know love.


But it all comes down to faith and if you believe in sin and God which I do.


peace.



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