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Neoton: IBM to shatter Moore’s law with 300GHz Crystal Computer

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posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 06:10 PM
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I hope this is the right site. But this super 300ghz sounds like bad news. Just wait and see.

www.crystalcc.com...




posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 06:16 PM
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Nuh-uh, but it's a nice site anyway.

It will be interesting to see how qdl and quantum logic computers take over, personally, I'm betting you start seeing commercial qdl (or military..) in the next 10 years. Maybe less.


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[edit on 9-7-2007 by sanctum]



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Rhain
Wow..I want one. This is amazing. I was just telling my kids the other day that we are long over due for a break in technology.
[edit on 8/7/07 by Rhain]


Funny, we just had a golden age and they don't last forever, so to say over due? I'm not sure. but seriously, this is sweet of course. predicted but sweet nonetheless.
Doesn't Moore's law only hold to our current transistor based technology? If so this doesn't reallly break it as it's a new way of doing things. Just a bit of nittpicking for fun


Now for the important questions, where do I get one?, what does it cost? and how much is it going to raise my electrical bill?


[edit on 9/7/2007 by David2012]



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 06:54 PM
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For storage, there was an article in Time magazine a year or two back about chemical storage. Something the size of a grapefruit would store huge amounts of information through chemical signatures in the device. Can't remember how much but it was in the 100's of terabytes.I think it was a few years ago now thatI mention it. Electronic computers will be things of the past. We will have pc's that operate at 1000x times faster then the supercupters now, powered with sonic waves using and light. It's crazy to see how far advanced some things are yet, aren't released yet for mass production. Mostly because of production costs are too high. 15 yrs if we don't kill ourselves we should have this around.

-Aza



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 07:45 PM
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As one of the few believers in the C2C CARET drone thread, this sort of computing seems to be a precursor to the advanced technology retrieved from alien crash landings. That's why I think it's funny when people say things like "Oh that's impossible, you can't have a computational system where you would write diagrams on it to get it to function." How would anyone know what technology of the far future would look like or how it would act? Technological advancement is the fruit of our imagination.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by uberarcanist
Now, I'm not an idiot when it comes to computers but I'm no expert, either. Can someone tell me if the other components of the system (HD, RAM, cache, peripherals, cache, etc.) will be able to keep up?


Well thats will for sure need to be addressed. But I know diamonds are being researched for use with memory modules.

Couple of articles about the use of diamonds. Im sure it wont be long before they can find ways to use lasers and fibre optics for the devices as well.

www.usatoday.com...

arstechnica.com...

Our universal friends must have made another payment recently.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by Heckman
I could be wrong but this looks like a bogus story to me. It is dated for May 8 2006...


Oh no its a happin thing Heck. Technology is taking off again in the computer industry and this is just the start of some pretty amazing things to come out. Im in the Industry and have said to myself they cant get any quicker. well never say never right. They are working with diamonds, chemical storage and fibre optic applications for computing for some time. I just finished up a 12 terra byte storage solution for the PTO recently.
Its going to be placed at Iron mountain as a back up for all the patent data in the US.

I didnt believe that one either....



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by MystikMushroom
Soon we will have the raw computing power before 2012 at this rate to download human consciousness into "software". Maybe this is what 2012 means...time will cease to exist as we know it because we will live in a time-less digital realm...where mere seconds now in time will last apparent "eons" to our consciousnesses...?

A company is already producing a holographic hard drive capable of being used with this new IBM technology:InPhase Technology

With leaps and bounds comming so rapidly at such an exaggerated curve of time/advancement...

Perhaps that is what awaits us???



Thats an interesting thought. But imo not the right approach to the evolution of the human consciousness..What events like 2012 may be and with the predictions of the human consciousness[nostradamus] the human brain is way beyond these computers so downloading it to to software not seems plausible[But in reverse maybe we can store it in the 70%? we dont use
]. We dont even know a fraction of our brain or ourselves but still we keep working on AI and calculation performance. Its interesting combining but we humans really need to work about evolving from the "inside" instead of using to much external technology[what has al these tv channels and gadgets really brought us?] ..though it might help us understanding it more..
I think i dont have to tell you with the psychedelic avater and all, that those psychonautic trips goes beyond these things.
We must not lose our bond with nature[wich we are.. and part of ], thats what i am saying. I even think the first interstellar trip we gonna make[if not done already, i havent tried special K yet] is via the astral plane[and teleportation] with our very minds and not with machines.
Still an interesting machine IBM crafted, i know people here at TNO Delft are working on quantum computing but as far as i know the very complete quantum computer is yet to be born..





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posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by geemony

Oh no its a happin thing Heck. Technology is taking off again in the computer industry and this is just the start of some pretty amazing things to come out. Im in the Industry and have said to myself they cant get any quicker. well never say never right. They are working with diamonds, chemical storage and fibre optic applications for computing for some time. I just finished up a 12 terra byte storage solution for the PTO recently.
Its going to be placed at Iron mountain as a back up for all the patent data in the US.


I have no doubts in the future of advanced computing. I was just referring to my doubts in the validity of the "IBM Neoton" story.

It seems to me that it is very likely that quantum computing and nanotech are going to advance hand in hand each providing the other with applications for a likely exponential increase (explosion) in both materials and computing technology in the near future.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 09:07 PM
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I think there needs to be a more reliable source on this, IBM doesn't list anything, Wikipedia doesn't list anything, there's not reputable tech site like toms hardware or slashdot that mentions anything about this.

I think someone is pulling someone's chain on this story....

Not to mention this was posted online in 2006.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 09:13 PM
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A company is already producing a holographic hard drive capable of being used with this new IBM technology:InPhase Technology


This certainly is not "new" technology, even though it is new to the public. I read an article about this in the late 80s. Texas Instruments were the ones who invented (or should I say quite possibly reverse engineered) this technology for holographic storage. The article stated that a 1 cubic centimeter holographic substrate when written with lasers could hold in excess of 500 terabytes. Again, keep in mind this was in the late 80s so I could only imagine the technology they have today.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 09:24 PM
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I can't wait to get my very own IBM Quantum Crystal Computer! Finally, a system that can play Minesweeper the way it was meant to be!



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 09:29 PM
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When these new Quantum computers are available to average people, I will be able to die 1 Billion times faster in online games!


Seriously though, isn't it amazing how many things in all the Star Trek series are coming true? I'm beginning to wonder if, collectively, the human consciousness actually warps and bends reality to it's will.

Scientists have slowed light down to a walk, and have sent information faster than the speed of light (physicists are still complaining about that one, even when it was replicated about 10 times in less than a week), crystals used as computers, bio-computers, things being "Beamed" across a room (a couple of cesium atoms beamed about 6 feet, if I remember correctly), a compound made with common household items that is impervious to plasma torches, computers that react to spoken commands, not to mention the ubiquitous "flip phones".

It makes one wonder: Is art imitating life, or is life imitating art?



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 09:38 PM
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I have always heard the idea of quantum computing and processors that use light. but I never imagined that it would come so soon. I at least thought it could be another 7 - 10 yrs. and even longer after that till it hit consumer markets. but I think it will end up taking that long for the fact that this kind of technology and advancement tends to take time to get the ball rolling. it will be a new era with great devices and technology built on that kind of backbone.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 09:57 PM
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Here is an article about quantum computing using crystals and lasers from wired

wired.com


The accomplishment marks a new world record, but the scientists are more thrilled that they were able to store and recall light, an important step toward quantum computing. "What we've done here is create a quantum memory," said Dr. Matthew Sellars



very interesting even though this article is from '05



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Malichai
If not MS will just make a new bloated OS that sucks the CPU cycles.

...And also engineer for backward incompatability just so that older Windows OS's won't be able to take advantadge of the warpspeed processing capability...



Originally posted by sardion2000
...we wouldn't want the old tech to go to waste so an interface will be created to render the new technology with some backward compatibility.

Which Microsoft will definitely try to "obtain" (through fair means or foul) just to put backwards incompatibility right back in...At least, in relationship with all older MS products & all non-MS products.


Originally posted by Sys_Config
IBM qubit processing is a monumental leap that woul dispense with those gigantic cryogenic tanks that the cray systems used.

Hmmm...You wouldn't happen to be referring to the "florinert" (sp?) cooling system developed by the 3M Corp? This stuff is at least 10 years old & there may be a more updated system in use, but it involves pumping an electrically-inert fluid (the florinert itself) throughout the computer mainframe to keep it cooled.


Originally posted by Sys_Config
This will also take the weather modeling and predictions considerably foward by leaps and bounds. NASA could certainly use some help in that department
.

It may be likely that the Government would use this computer advance for its world model...Scary thought.


Originally posted by MystikMushroom
Soon we will have the raw computing power before 2012 at this rate to download human consciousness into "software".

The computer would still not be able to perform the processes of an "imprinted human brain engram" until comp science can figure out a way to make a computer work in parallel processing, like a human brain works...To date, computers can only process data in a "serial stream", but the human brain synapsis light up more like a Christmas Tree (each single neuron that fires will activate several adjacent areas of the brain structure--Which each in turn fires up several other areas, etc. The only real "control" over which areas activate & which areas don't is determined by the presence of neural transmitters (fluid chemical) or neural suppressors).

Yes, they could still make "learning computers" that can take in new data & extrapolate new info based upon connections between other info sources, but a "serial processing" computer can never think like a human...ie: Can't make judgements based on "hunches," perform "leaps beyond logic" or otherwise be truly creative.


Originally posted by Skunky

Originally posted by 7Ayreon
Soon we will have computers that can download information into the very brain itself...

Aren't they called eyes?

Nope...Eyes are more like periphial devices (cameras) linked into the computer (brain). It's the human's "neural software" (wetware) that actually processes the "camera signals."



Originally posted by David2012
Now for the important questions, where do I get one?, what does it cost? and how much is it going to raise my electrical bill?

I don't know the answers for the first two questions, but to answer your third:
You'd probably need to tap into Geothermal power to avoid blacking out your city...


Anybody else have "Deep Thoughts" about this? (Yes, the plug for Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy five-part trilogy of books was intentional here
)



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 10:26 PM
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NVIDIA has shattered Moore's law already... 500 Gigaflop TESLA DESKTOP supercomputer.....IBM better play catch up real quick...NVIDIA's is ready now.

See thread here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 9-7-2007 by DisabledVet]



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 10:37 PM
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Really, no. Moore's law isn't about floating point speed, it's about how many transistors you can fit per unit area. So Nvidia hasn't done any shattering.

Nor really anything you can't do with other parts. Like I posted on your thread, we were using P10's for vector processors back in 2002 (still got the 3DLabs super secret pitch here) and getting 160Gflops per chip 5 years ago.

You can also buy 15 ClearSpeed CSX600's and stick them together for 500Gflops, but it's a bit pricey. It is, however, right off the shelf.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
Really, no. Moore's law isn't about floating point speed, it's about how many transistors you can fit per unit area. So Nvidia hasn't done any shattering.

Nor really anything you can't do with other parts. Like I posted on your thread, we were using P10's for vector processors back in 2002 (still got the 3DLabs super secret pitch here) and getting 160Gflops per chip 5 years ago.

You can also buy 15 ClearSpeed CSX600's and stick them together for 500Gflops, but it's a bit pricey. It is, however, right off the shelf.


Still beats IBM's....... so mute point.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 10:46 PM
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three questions, first, does this mean R2 D2 was a Quantum computer, what with his holographic hard drive and all. Second, does this mean nomore waiting for porn?(Just Kidding, someone had to say it!) Third, does this bring about a new advancement in video as we know it? holographic video?



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