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Is Illuminati/NWO propaganda designed to demoralise americans?

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posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 11:08 PM
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Is Illuminati/NWO propaganda designed to demoralise americans?

Most Illuminati/NWO propagandists like to spread the view that somewhere out there, there exists a secret group with sinister agendas to take over the world, enslave mankind etc.

What is suspicious about this type of propaganda is that they only focus on USA regime as being most influenced by this so-called Illuminati/NWO group.

Other regimes are not the focus of these propagandists.

Most people who are exposed to Illuminati/NWO propaganda develops a hostile attitude towards the USA regime led by Bush.

What if all Illuminati/NWO propaganda is designed by an enemy of USA to undermine the Bush regime and demoralise USA society?

The intent of Illuminati/NWO propagandists is to turn americans against their own government so as to weaken USA?

Many americans now favour Bush's removal from office for example.


[edit on 8-7-2007 by Ickey]




posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 11:23 PM
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Yes, you've nailed it.

No better way to create a confused and disillusioned populace than to spread dissent. Popular "divide and conquer" mentality.

Amazingly enough, a disaffected individual is inclined to spend more time shopping for un-nessecary personal effects to compensate for lack of direction and faith in anything greater than him/herself.

Odd how that works out.



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 11:31 PM
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What is suspicious is that propagandists only design their propaganda that will appeal to americans.

Why not target Russia, China, Japan, UK, France and others?

I think there is ill-intent behind Illuminati/NWO propaganda.

The most recent 07/07/07 hoax comes to mind.

This date is only three days after USA's 4th of July.

Someone wants to target the american audience and demoralise them I think.

I don't like USA's foreign policies and hegemonic agendas, but spreading propaganda targeted at demoralising americans and casuing them to turn against their own government is also not right.



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 11:41 PM
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Problem for America and Americans is that they are the most useful tool for bringing in the NWO. And on the other side of the equation the American Constitution is the biggest stumbling block.
Americans in general are a fairly docile lot but when the NWO starts mucking around with the Constitution and thier rights things start to get a bit dicey. If there is going to be a NWO expect the fight against it to be pretty bloody on the North American continent.
Most of the world will probably sit on the sidelines while American is brought down and humbled and then they will cheer as America gets whats coming to them in thier opinions, realizing too late that with America gone that any human rights they thought they believed in are now gone the way of the dodo.



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 11:41 PM
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When lack of faith in the dominant regime is firmly embedded in the minds of many, the subversive element can easily slip in and provide the "solution" for the very problems it has created.

It's the False Messiah Syndrome.

[edit on 8-7-2007 by GENERAL EYES]



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 11:48 PM
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If there is enemy of USA spreading hostile propaganda to demoralise americans, they are quite skillful.

They saw that Bush in his younger days at Yale had joined a so-called secret society Skulls and Bones for fun.

They played on this as a weakeness and spread propaganda against Bush, saying that he is being influence by Skulls and Bones.

There is no evidence of Skulls and Bones having any sort of influence on USA policies but due to this type of paranoid propaganda, Bush's image is tarnished.

Very shrewd.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 12:05 AM
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Like many others i believe that 9/11 was meant to be exposed so that America will fall. The country will have a government that no one in the world trusts and we will need a unification of canada us and mexico to "organize" in the aftermath.

We will probably have nato forces on our streets and blackwater type mercenary forces because many of our military will leave because of gross disillusionment with a now exposed criminal government.

The problem is all of this is false the illuminati are "Globalists" and the members span the globe. Some say catholic church, some say zionists some say Rothschild bankers and the Windsors. I say its probably all of those groups but in order to have a world government the U.S. cannot exist in its present form with all them pesky liberties and freedoms.

Its lies behind lies and even when you think you know the truth you realize there is an even bigger secret.

I think generally things are not right in the world and that exposing 9/11 will eradicate the "False Flag" or at least mainstream it. That will be a major blow to the controlling elite.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 12:30 AM
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The problem is all of this is false the illuminati are "Globalists" and the members span the globe. Some say catholic church, some say zionists some say Rothschild bankers and the Windsors.

All speculation without evidence.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 02:26 AM
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So dissapointing.......












posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 01:30 PM
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Wait: Are we completely ignoring the 'ZOMFG! America's gonna be in the New World Order!' threads that continually appear?
Yes, I get the point that most posters here are American but come on.
Honestly, looking at this site from the outside, the New World Order seems to be solely focused on dominating America (and occasionally Britain/Australia) through the U.N/elitism/any-suspicious-scapegoat and screw the rest of the world!
SO WHAT IF IT'S A NEW WORLD ORDER?! IT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO FOCUS ON NON-AMERICAN COUNTRIES!


Originally posted by Ickey
Is Illuminati/NWO propaganda designed to demoralise americans?


Well as the main readers of such materials are by-and-large paranoid Americans, and America has the greatest access/quantitiy of suh sites, I guess I'd say yes.


Originally posted by Ickey
Most Illuminati/NWO propagandists like to spread the view that somewhere out there, there exists a secret group with sinister agendas to take over the world, enslave mankind etc.


No, they're just trying to take over/enslave the U.S/average U.S citizen.



Originally posted by Ickey
What is suspicious about this type of propaganda is that they only focus on USA regime as being most influenced by this so-called Illuminati/NWO group.


Wait, is this the same 'propaganda' that says that America, and only America, can save the world from the New World Order? That, with the defeat of America, the world is screwed and has in all likelihood already 'fallen' to the New World Order menace?


Originally posted by Ickey
Other regimes are not the focus of these propagandists.


No that's because they've already fallen, and it's up to America again to save the world!



Originally posted by Ickey
Most people who are exposed to Illuminati/NWO propaganda develops a hostile attitude towards the USA regime led by Bush.


I wonder why:
Could it be that the current leader of a country is often associated with the particular political party which, due to their election, is dominant within that particular country?
Could it be thatGeorge Bush won through possible electoral fraud?
Could it be that George Bush invaded Iraq based largely on lies?
Could it be that, for all intents and purposes, George Bush is, or at least seems to be, an idiot?


Originally posted by Ickey
What if all Illuminati/NWO propaganda is designed by an enemy of USA to undermine the Bush regime and demoralise USA society?


Last time I checked most critcism of the current regime is almost always contemporary.
You know what the funny thing is? In fifty years or so (If we're still around) the history books will probably have him as a 'decent guy'


Originally posted by Ickey
The intent of Illuminati/NWO propagandists is to turn americans against their own government so as to weaken USA?


You want my honest opinion?
The current U.S administration (like previous administrations) is basically pissing on the Constitution.
Wasn't it George W Bush that called it 'a goddamn piece of paper'?
And, as I highly doubt you'll get the 'point' so to speak, I'll give to you this way: the Bush administration doesn't care about your 'rights'.
Ever heard of the Patriot Act?


Originally posted by Ickey
Many americans now favour Bush's removal from office for example.


I guess opposition to Nixon was also 'anti-Americanism'



Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
If there is going to be a NWO expect the fight against it to be pretty bloody on the North American continent.


Note:He is referring to the U.S, not Canada and the U.S.
And why does everyone assume that the fight against the New World Order will be a massive Armageddon-like event?
Once they destory the militia and the certain members here that 'walk the walk' so to speak, there ain't gonna be much opposition buddy.


Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
Most of the world will probably sit on the sidelines while American is brought down and humbled and then they will cheer as America gets whats coming to them in thier opinions, realizing too late that with America gone that any human rights they thought they believed in are now gone the way of the dodo.


By whom?
Islamic terrorists?
The U.N?
China?

The first I highly doubt, as the U.S could crush them easily, the second is basically useless (they can't both be a bubmling, bureaucratic nightmare AND a giant conspiracy to dominate the world, guys) and do you honestly think the world would stand by if China invaded the U.S?

And we reiterate the same 'America is the only place that respects human rights', despite much evidence to the contrary.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 01:54 PM
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Note:He is referring to the U.S, not Canada and the U.S.


Actually Canada the US and Mexico with Canada and Mexico becoming military staging areas for military entry into the US.



And why does everyone assume that the fight against the New World Order will be a massive Armageddon-like event?


I dont I think it will be an insurgency 5th generation conflict.




Once they destory the militia and the certain members here that 'walk the walk' so to speak, there ain't gonna be much opposition buddy.


Yes like we are destroying the Militia in Iraq, what makes you think Americans are any less capable than any other group that may wage insurgent warfare?




By whom?
Islamic terrorists?
The U.N?
China?


My thought would be internal forces aided by UN Peacekeepers who would be asked to assist by the US Government.




and do you honestly think the world would stand by if China invaded the U.S?



Not only would they stand by they would cheer on the Chinese.




And we reiterate the same 'America is the only place that respects human rights', despite much evidence to the contrary.


To clarify America isnt the only one that believes in human rights, but I do believe without America around it will be easier to strip other countries of thier human rights.

Thats my view YMMV






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