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9/11 UFO alternate camera angles

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posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 08:24 PM
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I thought that this might need a new thread because I'd like to see if anyone has seen this anomalous object show up in other camera angles. The object in question is most well known from this shot:

www.youtube.com...

I believe that the same object may have been filmed from an opposite vantage point at a good distance away. In the following footage you can see the object actually eclipse the plane as the plane makes contact with the building. In other words the plane is flying full speed into the tower and this bugger passes it from behind (right to left) like it is standing still. As it passes the buildings it continues in an arc that takes it in a direction moving away from the camera and it disappears. You have to look close- it happens at about 20-21 seconds into the clip.

www.youtube.com...

Has anyone made a study of the two bits of footage to see if the timing might reveal these objects to be one in the same? I don't have the know-how to do this myself. I'm also curious if anyone has seen this dark fast-moving object in other shots as well.

I have a crazy idea about what the thing could possibly be, but I am reluctant to post it here because I know I'll catch a lot of flack for it. Maybe I'll post it in skunk works if enough people are interested in wild speculation
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posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 10:22 PM
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What I find interesting is the way the object in the second video moves in an arc, perhaps conforming to the surface of the earth? Also we must remember that the plane is flying at very high speed, yet almost seems to be in slow-motion when compared to this object. It would be enlightening to get a speed analysis done so we can determine the speed at which the object is moving.

I think it's pretty clearly some type of high-technology craft, what else could exhibit such extraordinary speed? I'd like to know what the skeptics say about this.



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 10:32 PM
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It's a bird, much closer to the camera than the distant plane...



Even the goofballs on Youtube have this one pegged...



EDIT: I am referring to the 2nd video

[edit on 8-7-2007 by djdave2010]



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 10:32 PM
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It looks like it shot or dropped something off as it flew by. It doesn't match up with the speed of the explosion, but it does match up with the speed of the object


And it's not a bird, the black object comes from behind the building.

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[edit on 8-7-2007 by RandomThought]



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 10:41 PM
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The first video, I don't have any idea. But the second video, it looks like a dragonfly.



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 10:45 PM
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I do not have something to stop frames, but at 1:59 and perhaps a second or two before and after you see clearly and oblong missile looking object, since it is moving it could be stretched a little but I would still think the overall shape standing still would be oblong and slim...definitely not a bird though, I thought about the possibility of that but the movement is way too fast....it is very grainy though so its hard to really see what it is.



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by djdave2010
It's a bird, much closer to the camera than the distant plane...

Even the goofballs on Youtube have this one pegged...



EDIT: I am referring to the 2nd video



As DJ Dave pointed out this was determined to be a bird by the
ATS analysts quite awhile back. In fact, there have been several
clips from 9/11 where people mistake birds for UFO's. There were
hundreds, if not thousands of video cameras rolling on that sad day.



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 10:46 PM
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You have got to be kidding me.... wow. A bird!? I'm not sure what to make of this. It blows my mind that you can look at that clip and say "yeah, its obviously a bird". All I can say is that our perception of reality differs greatly.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 12:18 AM
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With the millions and millions of people watching, i think some wh=ould have seen a UFO at the time.

People lets be serious here, a black smudge on the film is not worth even discussing IMHO.

Are you claiming that a UFO, from a distent civilisaion did a fly-by so they could get a a shot of what was happening here on earth???

Please, there are MANY other videos and events that may indeed be other worldly, rehashing photage of 9/11 does nobady any good.

This can be a bird, and insect, or even just dammagedd film, what it is not is a Craft from somewhere else.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 12:58 AM
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First vid: the insect 10 feet in front of the camera man did NOT come from behind the building. It simply flew through the line of sight of the smoke so we didn't see it at first. Dark bug+Dark Smoke=Dark picture. Seriously people I know i wanna say that I've seen something too but not every camera blur is a UFO!



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 02:09 AM
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Originally posted by TKainZero
With the millions and millions of people watching, i think some wh=ould have seen a UFO at the time.

People lets be serious here, a black smudge on the film is not worth even discussing IMHO.

Are you claiming that a UFO, from a distent civilisaion did a fly-by so they could get a a shot of what was happening here on earth???

Please, there are MANY other videos and events that may indeed be other worldly, rehashing photage of 9/11 does nobady any good.

This can be a bird, and insect, or even just dammagedd film, what it is not is a Craft from somewhere else.


Ok, first of all let me just say that I respect your opinion, but I disagree with you 100%.

I posted these 2 clips for comparison precisely because I think it is worth discussing. No place in my original post did I ask to be bombarded with this sort of ridicule. If you think it's a bird fine. If you think the topic is a waste of time fine, but please remember that as sure as you think you are, it is still your OPINION. This is obviously not the thread for you.

For any one else who is convinced that it's a bird or a bug, that's great! More power to you! But don't expect everyone else to see it your way. If you think that the subject is not worth your time, move on and go find a thread that you feel is worth while- that's what I do. I can't understand why it is so hard for some people to accept that others may not see things the same way.

If I want to entertain the possibility that some sight-seeing UFO occupants did a fly-by in some alternate dilation of space-time that is my prerogative. Who the hell am I hurting?



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 02:13 PM
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A very fast moving air ship.

A Mini Super Zep that beamed or shot off something into the building.

Why fake that after faking the plane going in.

Ed: pay on attention to the detractors that lurk in the net



[edit on 7/9/2007 by TeslaandLyne]



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 08:32 PM
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Thanks for posting this thread, OP, I have always been fascinated with this controversy for a long time. When people said it was a bird or an insect I just didn't see it. To me it looks like some kind of craft or perhaps a UFO. It's not so hard to believe that a trans-dimensional UFO of alien origin would be flying by right at the exact moment of a historical event for sight seeing purposes. Maybe they are human time travelers who wanted to witness the event first hand or maybe there was an entity inside the building that wanted to get out of the way and moved outside.



posted on Jul, 9 2007 @ 08:57 PM
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Take a VERY close look at this clip and tell me what you see....The vid title says laser. I know what the youtube user sees, but it's not the objects it's something else.

You watch for the object, not the light on the tower.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 09:31 AM
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Yeah, I made a mistake.


Ed: pay on attention to the detractors that lurk in the net

It should have read:
Ed: pay no attention to the detractors that lurk in the net
^Like in the Wizard Of Oz
Well a lot of things are hidden.

That fly by was very fast and I could not discern any tell tail characteristics
of a triangle aether craft or Super Zeppelin type aether craft.

Being cloaked in purple light from high electric field atomic gas emissions,
the craft can look like a dark cloud.



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 09:43 AM
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i think thats not the real area 51 google probly put it their and not in new mexico so stupid pp wont find it or thats a out of date pic. think about it would the milletary just let google put area 51 on a map so evry one can see and isnt area 51 suposed to be in new mexico north of roswell



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 10:01 AM
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pigeons both of them, look at the area where the smoke is in the first video you will see it pass in front of the building not behind; and the second video you can see the bird flaping its wings.



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 10:07 AM
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Well, whatever it was was moving to fast to be a bird in my opinion.Or any type of insect. I had a hard time catching it on pause. If you go to google and type in the key words 9/11 japanese ufo, there is a video of a ufo engaging a helicopter a japanese news team was flying. it is from one year before 9/11. if it is real then one would have to speculate that ufo's have always been in the skies above new york lingering around the world trade center. And the thing that made me believe it was real, is when the ufo almost hits the helicopter, it flies off of the side of it and there is a smoke cloud from behind it. when an object is moving at super sonic speeds, it pulls air from around an object that is close to it. Judge for yourself. Check out the video.



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 10:09 AM
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I have just cleaned this thread up. STAY ON TOPIC please.


Springer...



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 01:59 PM
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Check out more here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Same UFO 9/11 topic, same UFO 9/11 time.

Its a Super Zeppelin but probably not the one with the Hitler seat.



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