Where do people on ATS stand on this?, page 2

I don't see how species on this planet didn't have divine "help" Supernatural or otherwise. I never was able to believe in just evolution or just creation, partly b/c even the concept of creation requires evolution after the initial. At least that's how I've seen it...

I think the evolution you are referring to is Micro-Evolution. Micro Evolution happens and we see it happen, we see the result of it and we can see why it happens. Micro however does not lead to Macro.

And for those who think that no one can nail the exact date on Gods creation is correct. we cant say it was October 23rd 4004 B.C. we can however get it down to the year, give or take a few years.
God said in Genesis that the evening and the morning were THE first day. as far as I know there is only one "The First Days" in history, and that was the first day. Since that was the first day you add the ages of the fathers of each generation all the way up to Jesus Christ and do a little math and get roughly 6,000 years ago.

If God had already created the heaven and the earth why was it without form or void.

Ansrew: it simply wasnt done yet. Without form means without form, like a water has no form if its floating out there in space. and void simply means empty, God hasnt put anything in the earth yet. Gods 6 days of work is something for his people to follow. work 6 days and rest the 7th day to remember the Lord and keep him and his day holy. I have no problem with how long it took God to create everything, he can do it however he wants to. If God just said boom here is everything, im sure people would still come up with questions on why God didnt do it the way we know he did it, a 6 day creation. But the evolutionist have the much bigger problem, they believe that 20 billion years ago, nothing exploded and created everything. (very hard to believe btw)

Angels did not fall before or during creation, Lucifer had been in the Garden of Eden, the Garden of God until iniquity was found in him. God looked at everything when he was done and said it was all very good. it wouldnt make sense for God to say that if there was fallen angels and a devil running after Adam already.

6,000 years in Gods eyes can be 6 trillion years is what I am getting at. We are so naive to why we are here, what is out there and what we can obtain.

when God made the Sun moon and stars, he said that they were for signs for seasons, years and days. the verses in the bible you are referring to about a thousand years being as a day to God does not tell us that each day was a thousand years during creation. those verses are simply stating that God it outside of time, God it not limited by time. God does not age.

And also, GOD said he created man in the image of himself.
Never explained what "Himself" looked like did he!!??
GOD might look like a t-rex, or a tiny little single celled microb.
And hence the evolution theory isnt so unbelieveable now is it?? just mix the 2 together.

If God said that he made man in his image, im sure we look something like him, something like Jesus Christ. If God looked like a T-Rex im sure we would look a little more like a T-Rex.

I believe in an old universe and in evolutionary processes in the stars and on the planets.

stars dont form. they only explode. boils law goes against the formation of stars.

did God have genitals (when he had no use for them)? The question could be extended to other internal organs

God made man in his IMAGE, he created them male and female. so the answer it no, he does not have genitals. if we follow your logic, God should have the Genitals of both male and female. we are made in his image, not a God-like body.

I believe God created the universe, but it was many billions of "man" years ago

that puts death before sin and now you have a heresy.