I haven't read this thread, but I liked the OP and the last couple of pages. These ATS threads are truly ponderous --especially the good ones! But
Skeptic and crew are trying to change things so that good ideas rise to the top, or at least I am percieving that personally.
Original Poster NJE777 says:
I have just finished reading The Pagan Christ by Tom Harpur. There are too many similarities between Horus and Christ to reject the author's claim
that the story of Jesus Christ was plagiarised from much earlier Egyptian mythology.
Is this just a case of history repeating itself? Are we doing an Egyptian re run? If so, why?
I think what is interesting is that Jesus has more power than even Horus, on this Earth at this time. Oh that's not to say that some folks don't
worship Horus and these older Egyptian gods, but their power is all in their minds (and their banks). Jesus is the one who has the hearts and minds
of the "meek" as he termed them. They are waiting for him to return or somehow deliver Earth into their hands.
Now in relation to this, is a theme which seems to recur, in cycles, irresistably. It is the theme of a man being offered (perfect, unblemished) and
then being bled-out (sacrificed) on behalf of the tribe. Personally, I think that whole concept, though historically valid up to this point, is now
totally and fully rendered obsolete.
I will refer you to a great story, not really publicised, but known:
Though it is arguable that the "primary themes are scapegoating, man's inherent evil, and the
destructive nature of observing ancient, outdated rituals" this is a common misconception. The actual theme of the short story is that man creates
philosophical existences that he is unable to fulfill. This is shown through Tessie Hutchinson. Throughout the story she is joking around about
the lottery and carrying on like all the other townspeople, but as soon as her family name is chosen from the black box her perspective takes quite
the turn. Suddenly this "isn't fair" when in all reality a lottery is by definition the most fair method of chance. When Hutchinson exclaims, "It
isn't fair!" this is a prime example of dramatic irony. While it is obvious that Tessie believes it was not fair that she was chosen, Jackson is
also trying to express that human nature is unfair. It is in human nature to kill and that is unfair.
People worship the tortured Jesus, but if asked to also be tortured, shall they endure it and go forward? Yes, I believe the faith of those who
follow the tortured Christ has merit, and they whip themselves or mentally beat themselves so as to follow his way. They shall have complete and
utter feeling of their God, the alnmighty God of Personal Torture.
But shall we say that the other meme of the non-tortured, out-the-backdoor Jesus is not also meritorious?
Shall we say both mental creations (and possibly even dualistically in history also) do not co-exist in the mind of each human and also their
Also the third Christ who is completely "fabricated and who really has no true value", represented by Nihilism and Atheism and so on. This Christ
is meant to be as powerless an impotent as possible, and is envisioned mentally by many, in service to their own "Jeus/Messianic" figure. So we
have the tortured Jesus, the sneak-and-and-make-babies Jesus, and the non-existant, impotent "historical fabrication" Jesus. --All three exist as
thought forms, one or two (and others of their alignment) may have also physically existed, been Godlike, etc.
But why the need for the shedding of blood? That's my main question. The lesson of the story above, is that Horus when re-assembled, might
similarly try to overturn a code of bloodshed, like Jesus did.
As for Horus himself, that's just all made up by early Egyptians who held all of Egypt in their mental prison. Horus was made up. Anubis was formed
from the cult of the dog, which is fully ancient. Lots of the imagery and such which predated the 18th dynasty was taken from obver the mountains to
the East (assyria/babylon and also Mittani). en.wikipedia.org...
...The idea of one Creator was not original to Akhenaten though
he had Horus in his sights when he shut down the temples. But perhaps he didn't realize that the old gods carried power in the people's minds?
...Did Akhenaten understand meme theory?
Zech. Sitchin is wrong to say that Mesopotamia was the nexus of truth/science/etc because also there were celtic and nordic african indian and all
other shades of humans whom the Creator guided to keep truth at root in the human race. There are many wanderers, now, then, and all through time.
People like Sitchin and others may often give themselves away by their comlete belief in one theory but also perhaps more importantly deconstructing
another? Now tell me am I deconstructing Jesus in this post here, or deconstructing his "meek" whom he said wil inherit the Earth?
Before Horus was fleshed out and pimped out to the priests and all others in Egypt, there existed a sub-concious and true understandng of the unity of
Earth and its creation, similar to wha all native peoples believe now. The Creator is One. I personally do not believe the Creator wanted Horus to
be ripped up or Jesus to be torture/killed/lotteried.
But hey, Horus had his balls ripped off and Jesus' corpse only got pierced by a sword, so who's to say we haven't made progress, right?