2012 Pole Shift survival guide, page 4
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reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 01:50 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by UofCinLA



i agree with person toa certain point. wont there still be eruptions and possilby super tsunamis caused from quacks.i live in socal and everyone is so unaware of how stuck we are in this city if something were to happen. i say bout 90% of the population wouldnt be able to get out. if all this is happening why isnt the government telling people to prepare for the worst.
sometimes i wonder if the gov doesnt want this out because they want to kill off there wasteful americans and think they can start a "SUPER RACE" i dont know. but still us common people need to stick together on this and survive. our ancestors have done it. so can we. im down to live. whos with me!??



reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 06:30 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by cheesepie



Brother cheesepie,

You hit the nail right on the head with that one. It was indeed one of the MAJOR signs of doomsday as the Quran has foretold.. .when the sun rises on the west.

At this time of the sun rising in the west, God said that no more repentance will be accepted, the door of heaven will be closed and all the angels will be recalled.

The sky will be rolled up like a scroll, and the earth is quaked with its final earthquake. That day God said that every man will know what it has sent forth...whoever did an atom's weight of good will see it then, and whoever did an atom's weight of evil will see it then.

For those who have ears let them hear.


reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 01:19 AM by cruzion
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



Wasn't it also foretold in the Tolkien trilogy, Lord of the Rings, where Sauron will get the ring, and the world will turn to black; there will be earthquakes and CGI, etc?

Let him that has ears look out for the trollop people talk.


reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 08:50 PM by Anuubis
reply to post by cruzion

The mantle is not liquid, it's the layer you live on. I watched a show on the history channel about it. What's cuasing the shift is only in part the sun, but it's mostly the black hole at the center of our galaxy. It's the biggest one astronomers have found to date.


reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 12:44 AM by cruzion
reply to post by Anuubis



Dude, we live on the lithosphere.
The mantle is below it, and is comprised of liquid rock.
Below that is liquid metal, then solid metal at the core.
Gravity from the sun, because of its huge mass, helps keep us in place.
The gravity from the moon effects the tides. But that's it! End of list.
Show me one shred of evidence of gravity from any planet having any effect whatsoever on us.
The planet Saturn is currently lined up with my ass. A cosmic event - coinciding with the fajitas I had for dinner...this is going to be a catastrophic evening!
Seriously, if you believe in these planetary alignment superstitions, and even worse; if you believe in the nibiru BS, you need a doc to check out your sanity. Stop propogating utter tosh. It's all total BS you've read from someone who got it from someone else, who just pulled it out their Uranus. There is no scientific corroboration for any of it. It is pure nonsense.


reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 04:42 PM by Anuubis
Originally posted by cruzion
reply to
post by Anuubis



Dude, we live on the lithosphere.
The mantle is below it, and is comprised of liquid rock.
Below that is liquid metal, then solid metal at the core.
Gravity from the sun, because of its huge mass, helps keep us in place.
The gravity from the moon effects the tides. But that's it! End of list.
Show me one shred of evidence of gravity from any planet having any effect whatsoever on us.
The planet Saturn is currently lined up with my ass. A cosmic event - coinciding with the fajitas I had for dinner...this is going to be a catastrophic evening!
Seriously, if you believe in these planetary alignment superstitions, and even worse; if you believe in the nibiru BS, you need a doc to check out your sanity. Stop propogating utter tosh. It's all total BS you've read from someone who got it from someone else, who just pulled it out their Uranus. There is no scientific corroboration for any of it. It is pure nonsense.

The Earth is made of many different and distinct layers. The deeper layers are composed of heavier materials; they are hotter, denser and under much greater pressure than the outer layers.

Core: The Earth has a iron-nickel core that is about 2,100 miles in radius. The inner core may have a temperature up to about 13,000°F (7,200°C = 7,500 K), which is hotter than the surface of the Sun. The inner core (which has a radius of about 750 miles (1,228 km) is solid. The outer core is in a liquid state and is about 1,400 miles (2,260 km) thick.

Mantle: Under the crust is the rocky mantle, which is composed of silicon, oxygen, magnesium, iron, aluminum, and calcium. The upper mantle is rigid and is part of the lithosphere (together with the crust). The lower mantle flows slowly, at a rate of a few centimeters per year. The asthenosphere is a part of the upper mantle that exhibits plastic properties. It is located below the lithosphere (the crust and upper mantle), between about 100 and 250 kilometers deep.
Now don't be an ass.


reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 06:20 PM by cruzion
reply to post by Anuubis



Well done, I'm glad you looke dit up, but why are you telling me this?
Did you find any proof that the planets are affecting mantle? I didn't think so, because they aren't. As for the mantle only moving a few centimeters per year, that is not true. The continents and oceanic crust that 'float' on the mantle move a few centimeters per year. The mantle itself moves a lot. Indeed, ocean spread is caused by convection currents within the mantle. Ocean spread, where it meets land, produces subduction zones, where the ocean floor is re-introduced back into the mantle. The subduction zones help move the continents, but also produce movement within the mantle.

The surrounding planets within our solar system have a minuscule effect upon the Earth. The biggest influences are obviously, Sol, and Luna.
I'm still waiting for one of you to offer up proof of a reaction on the Earth from any of the other planets in the solar system, or even outside it.

If you look through the threads here on ATS, about Nibiru, you will see that it has been debunked many times. It is not possible for a brown dwarf to be < 5 light years away, and for us not to see some effect from its mass, somewhere in the universe. Even if it was travelling at the speed of light, we would still see its effects along the path it is travelling (doppler shifting, anyone?)...which we don't. Besides the fact that it would be almost impossible for it to maintain the eliptical orbit it supposedly has, without a central mass or field to help control it. If there was a mass/field that large, we would have no problems detecting it, either, espicailly as Earth is within the orbit of Nibiru, and that field would have to extend as far as Nibirus' orbit: do you understand the logic? Nibiru is a complete fantasy, and impossible within modern physics. Perhaps you believe in magick? If so, then it could be pheasible, but then again, by those standards, 'anything' could also happen. Truth is, it won't, because there is no such thing as magick outside of the world of fantasy. That's why Nibiru is fantasy; It's not speculation or hidden knowledge, it is just total bunk nonsense that the gullible spout so people think they are 'in the know'. A great modern example of the emperors new clothes, and a laughable waste of everyones time.
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