Why no "buy American" banners?, page 1
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Topic started on 6-7-2007 @ 02:19 PM by 11Bravo
Why do I see a handful of 'Buy Israeli' banners in sigs, but not one damn 'Buy AMERICAN' banner?
Are there no proud Americans here?
Is Israels economy faultering and thus we need to buy their goods?
Isnt the
food tax enough? (read throught that link carefully. Notice the main antogonist are now banned. )

What gives? Are Americans ashamed of the handfull of products we still produce?
Are Israeli goods 'better' or more durable?


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 02:10 PM by fraterormus
I'm all for supporting American Jobs, however, "Buy American"? I laugh in your general direction!

When I buy my next car, GM, Ford and Chevy are at the bottom of my list and frankly I'd rather bike or walk than sink my hard-earned money into an American made car. I'll be buying Toyota, Honda or Hyundai thank you very much.

When I buy my next television, GE will not even be considered. I'll be buying Samsung or Sony.

When I buy my clothes, what American made clothes are there? I'm pretty sure they are all made in South East Asia. Levis might be the social icon of Americanism, but they aren't made here.

What it comes down to is that as a Consumer I buy what is the best product for the least amount of money.

Let's be honest, American Made in the past 30 years and counting is tantamount to Made in Taiwan.

And that's the penultimate problem that needs to be addressed here!

What happened to pride in workmanship? What happened to innovation? What happened to providing great products and service at a great price?

Somewhere along the way, especially from the early 1980's onwards (although the problem existed far before then), we became lazy and greedy and fat on the pork. We lost sight of what made American Made so strong. We cut corners to make more profit. We made sacrifices to increase our margin. We stopped caring as long as the money kept rolling in.

So what is America to do?

You cannot campaign for Buy American so long as American Made means shoddy, inferior, and over-priced.

Instead, at some point, when we are desperate enough as a Nation, our Corporations and Manufacturers need to take a long, hard look at themselves and realize that cutting corners is not cost-effective in the long run. We need to realize that in order to keep the money rolling in we have to take care in every little thing that we do. Most of all, we have to realize that we need to be competitive and to be such we can't grow fat and lazy, but instead constantly challenging ourselves to do better.

Until that day comes, Buy American is going to do nothing other than be a perverse joke that no one but the > 65 demographic is going to take seriously.


reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 02:46 PM by anotherdad
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I believe BHO asked China if it was alright but they said No!!! He then bowed, apolagized and came home.


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:07 PM by xpert11
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Here is some food for thought .

Well in fairness I feel that I need to point out that a Buy Made in New Zealand campaign came unstuck pretty quick . Shorty after the campaign was launched it was revealed that seafood caught in New Zealand waters was shipped overseas for processing and then shipped backed to our supermarket shelves . Other examples included the fruit in the canned variety came from China or something along those lines . So it usually not as clear cut as many people make out such things to be .


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:51 PM by argentus
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There is one American company I'm aware of that has made a quality product since the late 1800s -- post by fraterormus" target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">Worksman Cycles.

We got one of their tandem trikes last year. Good stuff, well made, tough, with a 500 pound carry capacity.

Both of your points are well taken, as well as others who lament that there aren't many quality American-made products out there, or at least in comparison with the various products' competition.

Oh, and Harley-Davidson....... I believe they are still US-made, although I can't swear to all the parts being so.


reply posted on 23-11-2009 @ 09:34 AM by desert
Originally posted by bowlbyville
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Items manufactured in India or China are of good quality and are much, much less expensive.
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And since this has been going on for decades, we’re basically screwed. I don’t see any good answers (perhaps someone else does).


Items manufactured cheaper are not necessarily of equal quality, usually less. I personally have not found imported items to be consistently of good quality.

One water district in the midwest bought Chinese made irrigation pumps because of the cheaper cost. The result? The pumps were of such poor quality that the district had to buy American pumps afterall, as the Chinese pumps had to be scrapped.

My husband purchased online an electrical product direct from China. The item quit after 4 uses. On inspection, he found the soldering was cheap, had come undone, and he had to redo it, plus the insulators were fashioned from discarded playing cards!

Cheaply made imported clothing is just that, cheaply made. Cheaply made plastic items/parts are just that, cheaply made plastic items/parts.

Third world health standards are still in play when the items are shipped to America, to note the Chinese wall board fiasco.

Starting in 1980, the American middle class was forced into, boxed into a corner, when they traded off lower wages/buying power for cheap goods. When Americans are forced into, and even some cannot afford to(!), shopping at WalMart, that is close to bottoming out. And Americans used to laugh at all those poor Communists who had to shop at GUM....WalMart is our capitalist GUM.

While Americans voted on culture/religious issues, they ended up with leaders who sold us out to corporations. Corporatism. It can no longer be whether a candidate can save our/his/her soul, but whether or not that candidate can fight this corporate takeover. Note the corporate dollars invested in the current fight over health care.

All I know is that it took 30 years to get this way, and it will take a lot longer than 10 months to get us out. Realistically, this baby boomer will be dead before America sorts out this mess and enjoys its rank in the world again.

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