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reply posted on 11-7-2007 @ 09:43 PM by Diseria
Originally posted by subject xI know a fella who thinks a "thesaurus" is one of those monsters on "Jurassic Park".
Disturbing but true.


But...I...what?

...ow...OW!......

That seriously hurt my brain.... *massages temples*


I get that a mechanic doesn't need to know how to read to fix a car. And I realize that fashion doesn't require knowledge beyond price and style. But seriously... COME ON...

Don't these people ever channel flip??

Public edukation was baad enuf when I was in skool, but this iz bordering on ree-dik-ku-lus. (And yes, that was intentional.)

I was taught finances my freshman year in high skool -- but that doesn't mean that I can accurately and reliably balance my checkbook, or that I understand tax forms. I learned the stuff, I vomited the knowledge back up on the test, and I went on with my day. Quite literally: In one ear and out the other.

Methinks it falls to the individual's priorities. I was stuck on fitting in, on boys (and the debate over whether or not they were still cootie infested), on making friends, on why I didn't fit in... I didn't care about finances. Why should I have? I didn't work, I didn't pay rent, or taxes, or bills. The knowledge was given to me, but I was not in the right frame of mind to accept it and understand its necessity.

So if people are more worried about fashion and buying the latest and greatest product (with pieces made in 5 different countries, styled in Italy, and assembled in the US by immigrant workers)... why would they care if a planet revolves around a star, or the other way around?

No, it's not a good reason. It's not even a viable excuse. My parents certainly wouldn't have accepted that as a reasonable response for poor grades...


....so, is the next step to make fashionable apparel with scientific facts?


reply posted on 26-7-2007 @ 12:48 PM by a1ex
Somewhat related:
Illiteracy: The Downfall of American Society


Illiteracy Statistics

In a study of 20 'high income' countries, the US ranked 12th on literacy tests. Illiteracy has become such a serious problem in our country that 44 million adults are now unable to read a simple story to their child. A few other shocking facts:

* 50 percent of adults cannot read a book written at an eighth grade level.
* 20 percent of Americans are functionally illiterate and read below a 5th grade level.
* Nearly half of all Americans read so poorly that they cannot find a single piece of information when reading a short publication.




reply posted on 31-7-2007 @ 02:21 AM by SevenThunders
Originally posted by laiguana
I would like to know what exact age group was targeted, because it seems very unlikely that this would be the same scenario for anyone between ages 18-35. I'm not sure how the school system was around 35+ years ago...so I can't speak for the adults who don't believe in evolution or don't believe that the earth revolves around the sun. Although...I am concerned that some of the more fanatical religious branches are brainwashing young persons into thinking that their version of science is more accurate than science itself.


Actually it's mainstream science that's doing most of the brainwashing. Science like any human endeavor is extremely political. The theory de jour is what wins the greatest political consensus and perhaps more importantly what can garner the most public research money. It was science that resisted the idea of heavier than air flight, with even scientific american devoting an entire article to 'debunking' the Wright brothers. So called scientists seem unable to understand that their theories are only theories and will eventually be proven wrong as every theory ever espoused by scientists eventually has been. Newton's laws, action at a distance even general relativity and quantum mechanics are all necessarily false. (General relativity currently contradicts quantum mechanics for example.)

Various corporations, governments and elite universities have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. They have suppressed every major discovery in the modern era. A lot of good 19'th century and early 20'th century science, including major advances by Tesla, Nathan Stubblefield, Keely and Royal Rife that would have changed society forever will never see the light of day.

How many know that cold fusion can now be reproduced at will or that MIT deliberately fudged their data to preserve their hot fusion funding? How many know that the Smithsonian deliberately tossed tons of artifacts into the ocean because it went against modern theories of the origins of man? I doubt few are aware of the evidence that the speed of light is not constant, or that the conventional Lorentz Force law for electromagnetics fails to handle the case of open loop currents such as might occur in a rail gun? How many know of Eugene Podkletnov gravity nulling experiments?

Finally to just assume that because someone has faith that they are therefore ignorant is pure ignorance. Most Americans, educated in government controlled education camps lack even basic critical thinking skills. I saw this first hand as a college level teacher. This has gotten worse as they have thrown God out of school. I have no doubt that a typical Amish person has far better reading and comprehension skills that a typical American college graduate. The Puritans had something like a 97% literacy rate. I'd like to see one of these self appointed atheist geniuses trained up good by the gubmint try out a McGuffey reader. Books meant for children would be beyond their grasp now.
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