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reply posted on 7-7-2007 @ 09:31 PM by Chaoticar
Originally posted by Spawwwn
I don't know why everyone is all shocked, and offended. If anything this just proves how useless grade k-12 is, and how little you use anything you learn there in the real world. This is excactly why i slept through most of school.


Note:Contributing factor to the twisted 'logic' behind Spawwwn's rant.

Originally posted by Spawwwn
Grade school is about memorizing obscure facts. I mean what countries do pandas come from? Why should i know or care?


Didn't it mention continent, not country?

Originally posted by Spawwwn
How many months have 31 days? That's just obscure facts. This is in no way a reflection of how "dumb" the adults are, or how "poor" our education system is (although it is admitedly quite crappy).


That may be so, but it doesn't require a great intellect to link Pandas-China-Asia, does it?

Originally posted by Spawwwn
This is why kids hate school because the ONLY things you will EVER learn are: Addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division..and basic english.


Well, maybe you shouldn't have slept through class, you might have learnt more.

Originally posted by Spawwwn
You don't really start learning usefull stuff till college..and even when you get to college there is a lot of useless crap you have to learn there. I mean seriously who cares about shakespere he's be dead for what like 400 years?


Well, I'm going to go with the whole 'The Bard (Shakespeare) was possibly one of the greatest playwrights (creator of plays, i.e tragedies, comedies etc) and overall contributors to European (or at least British) literature for centuries'.

Originally posted by Spawwwn
Everyone loves or at least likes their major..but seriously all those other useless courses like english and sociology are still useless, even in college. Trade schools are the way to go. Learn a good trade, and cut out all that excess book studying junk.


...and if one is majoring in either English or sociology? Uh oh! System error!
Yes, trades do, for the most part, help the world (or at least our lives) go round. However, since the 15th, or earlier, centurys the world has become a more complicated place: If everyone took a 'trade', instead of the 'book studying junk' you can say goodbye to doctors, lawyers and contemporary Western society in general.
Ah well. That stuff's useless anyway

Originally posted by Spawwwn
90% of the stuff learned through highschool is useless though. If you can comprehend english, and know how to use a claculator..you're fine. Tell me how many times have you honestly had to do linear algeabra in the real world? there's no reason adults should remeber obscure facts from outdated text books from 40 years ago.


Yes but for most of us that didn't, or are not, sleep/sleeping through highschool didn't make our choices when we first entered. And one can't quite go to a highschool, say 'Give me basic math/english and I'll be out by 15!'.
What if you decide you want to change, or, due to technological advantages, your job becomes obsolete?
And what about those that, in their particular career path, must use the 'useless' skills?

Originally posted by Spawwwn
Why don't we ask these kids to do some hardcore calculus? Or even ask them to analize why they think stem cell research could help parkisans disease. Then we'll see how smart those little heffers are.


Well, I'm going with the 'Because these students are Fifth Graders, and so have not obtained the information their competitors contemporaries may/may not have attained'.

Yay the 'I am the World' fallacy

Anyway in response to the O.P the contestants, like on most reality shows, are picked largely for:
1. Entertainment and
2. Ratings

I mean, who wants to see intelligent people winning again and again? Pretty dull viewing if you ask me.

It's like the 'Oprah Special on Education', where asking two white 'Americans' the first five U.S presidents as opposed to two 'Chinese' students proving that the U.S education system is crap.


reply posted on 8-7-2007 @ 12:09 PM by AcesInTheHole
Originally posted by ghaleon12
I grew up in Minnesota and we have some of the highest test scores in the USA. It's schools in other states that are really in trouble (and bringing nation test averages down) The point isn't the exact percent, I thought it was common knowledge how abysmally a large portion of children are at simple geography. Here's one link:
news.sawf.org...

Feel free to research more on your own if interested.

Point is, 5th graders being asked the same questions would probably do worse than adults. In geography for an example, this is painfully appearent.


Ok so it went from 50% to 20%, and now you are talking about the UK, not the US. Maybe you should get your facts straight before putting out false info like that.

So, as the arcticle you linked to says, one out of every five kids in the UK ages 6 to 14 are of less than average intelligence when it comes to geography. (ie: unable to find their country on a map) I fail to see the conspiracy here. If they couldn't do it after they graduated, then I would be worried.
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