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Something Odd in Stafford UK (UFO pics)

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posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 11:58 AM
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Further, if you go to Google Earth, find Colwich and follow the road that leads to Hixon you will see that it doesn't come close to the river, only a canal. There is enough information in the photo to identify the location it was taken from (if the photographer was being honest): the tree-lined road from which it was taken (the barrier will probably be visible on Google, too) , close to a bend in the river, with a spired church in the distance.

If anyone finds it on Google Earth let us know.

I can' believe MUFON put this in their archives with the leafless trees being such a glaring give-away!




posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by Essan
The picture looks like it was taken from a moving car (hence it's not that sharp and the roadside is prominent in the foreground) - and the supposed UFO is probably a reflection in the window. It's definitely not a distant object, anyway.


Essan, there were two links, two images. IMO the other one is the more interesting of the two. Given the "god rays" in evidence, the light on the object seems to be generated by the object. It certainly doen't look like reflection.

Oh, and what makes you say that the picture to which you are referring is definitely NOT a distant object? Just curious.



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 12:23 PM
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Very interesting indeed. Why the thread is not flagged yet??

At first I thought they are raindrops on the camera's protective glass or lens. But two independent sightings around the same area say something else. The stories associated with these appear totally made up though.



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 12:30 PM
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I love the random theory, do you think if we had cloaking technology there would be a bigger fuss made about it.
The only cloaking technology they have is microwaves and a small cyclinder, thats a far cry from actual visible lightwaves... we just dont have the nano materials devised yet.



I have to agree with some of the other posters who think it's an earthly object probably testing some cloaking device. I would like to think that it's British technology (I'm from the UK) and we were just giving it a test. If not, I don't know. Maybe they're cloaking so they can get closer in broad daylight,.

Remirah



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by rocksolidbrain
Very interesting indeed. Why the thread is not flagged yet??


I would guess it isn't flagged because it's yet another hoax. The photograph that shows the road and river was taken in the autumn or winter. The photographer is pretending it was taken a week ago - this means he is lying. Even you pointed out how fake the story seemed.

It's still a hoax, folks!



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 01:58 PM
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good spot torsion. i'm ready to agree with hoax on this.

peace

remirah



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 02:24 PM
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I did grow up in Cannock and only moved to Tamworth (still in Staffordshire) some six years ago.

Off topic here but I will say I don't think we have had a clear blue sky day in the Midlands yet for July this year, not like the the sky in the photo.

One thing though I do tend to look at the sky and clouds so I can tell what weather is coming in, and generally I'm closer to the mark than the weather forcasters, but one weird thing is I cannot recall seeing the strange clouds and cloud formations that I have been seeing for the last several weeks.

Regardless of all the rain we are having this summer, the clouds are freaky and the colours seem very ominous of destruction and evil.

Wolfie



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 02:26 PM
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Here's a third sighting of the 'same' object in the same area.

The photo was supposedly taken on the same day, 3rd July, but again, the foliage is a bit of a giveaway. The brown, dried weed stalks by the roadside should be lush and green considering the amount of rain we have had across the UK over the past month.

Also, the deciduous trees are showing a distinct lack of leaf again.

I've no doubt we are talking about a single hoaxer here, pretending to be three different witnesses to the same object.

Maybe he was inspired by the Chad drone incident.

It's a hoax, blokes!



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 02:39 PM
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The Exif data:

Exif IFD0

* Camera Make = OLYMPUS
* Camera Model = CamediaD380
* Picture Orientation = normal (1)
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* Software/Firmware Version = Digital Camera CamediaD380 Ver5.00
* Last Modified Date/Time = 2007:07:03 19:48:01
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Exif Sub IFD

* Lens F-Number/F-Stop = 460/100 = F4.60
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* Image Source = digital still camera (DSC)
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Exif IFD1

* Compression = JPEG compression (6)
* X-Resolution = 72/1 = 72.00
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Exif Interoperability IFD

* Interoperability Index = R98
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of this picture : www.mufoncms.com...

Does indeed claim that the photograph is taken on the 3rd of July.

I dont know what to think, it looks like a good picture to me, of something that is unidentified.

Nobody is claiming it's aliens, and it really is a UFO until we can say what it is for sure!



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 02:52 PM
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Just something that struck me as a bit odd...if 07-03-I is referring to the date 3rd July.. we don't say (or write) it like that in the UK. The way that's written it would have been the 7th of March. (Would explain the bare trees I suppose!)



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 02:57 PM
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I understand that exif data can be edited and I can assure you that the seasons cannot be modified!


How do you actually extract the exif data from a photo that is on the web? Is some special software required? I've not had any success with this picture.



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by torsion
Here's a third sighting of the 'same' object in the same area.

The photo was supposedly taken on the same day, 3rd July, but again, the foliage is a bit of a giveaway. The brown, dried weed stalks by the roadside should be lush and green considering the amount of rain we have had across the UK over the past month.

Also, the deciduous trees are showing a distinct lack of leaf again.


The grass on the other side of the road looks quite lush to me. I see what you mean about the trees, but if you drive down the A13 near Romford (miles from Stafford, I know, but I'm sure the phenomena is country-wide) it not only looks like winter, but a sodding post-apocalypse nuclear winter. Its all browns and bare branches.


Also, on the first picture linked to (www.ufocasebook.com...) there is a deciduous tree in glorious leaf! 'Splain dat!


[edit on 6-7-2007 by Karilla]



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 06:20 PM
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The third sighting has this EXIF data:

Make : Canon
Model : Canon Powershot A410
Date Time : 2007-07-03 T 19:45:05

And so on.
So this was also taken on the same day and time, as rest of the two ! The sky looks similar in all the pics, clear blue and same kind of clouds. I hope someone in the neighborhood visits them and finds out.

The ufo is new to me. Has anyone seen anything similar before (fake or real)?



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Natterjax
Just something that struck me as a bit odd...if 07-03-I is referring to the date 3rd July.. we don't say (or write) it like that in the UK. The way that's written it would have been the 7th of March. (Would explain the bare trees I suppose!)


In the EXIF data file the dates are presented in
Year-Month-Day

In America
Month-Day-Year

In UK
Day-month-year

As far as i know



posted on Jul, 7 2007 @ 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by rocksolidbrain
The third sighting has this EXIF data:

Make : Canon
Model : Canon Powershot A410
Date Time : 2007-07-03 T 19:45:05


Rock, can you get the exif data from the 1st photo - the one with the sun beams and the leafy tree.



posted on Jul, 7 2007 @ 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by Karilla
The grass on the other side of the road looks quite lush to me.

I was refering to the tall stalks - one would expect them to be green and leafy at this time of year. The grass will still be green in winter.


Also, on the first picture linked to (www.ufocasebook.com...) there is a deciduous tree in glorious leaf! 'Splain dat!


Which means it was taken in a different season. Maybe that one was taken on 3rd July and the other two were added from the photographers back-log of snap shots.

It will be interesting to see the exif data on the all three photos.

In the mean time here are some comparisons with the 'witness' reports:

Photo 2 (road side barrier):

i was driving to hixon near stafford and had just passed colwich i think when i saw this really bright 'disc' with thousands of spikes lit in blinding white light shooting out the top of it (spread out like a flowers petals!) in a field a few miles ahead.


Photo 3 (inside vehicle)

I was driving South, heading for Stone on the A34, very nearly there in fact, when I saw a dark blue metallic disk in the sky a few miles ahead.


note the use of unneccesary detail in both cases: "just passed colwich", "very nearly there", and implication of continuity with: "in a field a few miles ahead" followed by "in the sky a few miles ahead". Photo 3's write-up is also filled with what are most likely forced grammatical errors - just to give the impression that two different people are involved.

Photo1(sunbeams) witness states, "The picture was taken around sunset yesterday" and, if Rocksolidbrain's exif data is relative to photo 1, it was taken at 19.48 - about 2 hours before sunset.

Note also that Photo2 witness claims the object, covered in glowing spikes and 'glowing like molten metal at a forge', was actually landed in a field, close to a busy road, a railway line, a canal and a populated area. Still rather strange that all those thousands of potential witnesses didn't see a thing.

The descriptive detail which isn't evident in the photos says: "On the top were what I can only describe as silver metal rods, there must have been hundreds of them, each extending to a spiked point" and "spread out like flower petals" is a description reminiscent of the 'cage' that adorned the Chad Drone.

Indeed, what we have here may be a continuation or small time immitation of the Chad hoax.



[edit on 7-7-2007 by torsion]



posted on Jul, 7 2007 @ 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by torsion
The photographer claims to have taken the picture on the 3rd July. We are talking British summertime. Here in the UK when it is summer the trees have leaves all over the branches.

This photo was taken in the autumn or winter when the trees have shed their leaves.


Doh! I feel so stupid for not having spotted the obvious!


I think that's case closed



posted on Jul, 7 2007 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by torsion
Rock, can you get the exif data from the 1st photo - the one with the sun beams and the leafy tree.


There is no EXIF data in first pic (the one with sun rays).
You can see that someone added text on it, reduced the size and saved, which must have removed the EXIF data.

I found another thing while looking at an enhanced zoom. The object reflects the pattern of clouds below it. Can be a reflective ufo or can be a raindrop....I'll wait for other pics, if there are any.



posted on Jul, 7 2007 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by rocksolidbrain
There is no EXIF data in first pic (the one with sun rays).
You can see that someone added text on it, reduced the size and saved, which must have removed the EXIF data.


Photo 3 has also been edited (the red ring around the object) and it has retained its exif data. I don't know enough about exif to see that as being suspicious or not, though!


I found another thing while looking at an enhanced zoom. The object reflects the pattern of clouds below it. Can be a reflective ufo or can be a raindrop....I'll wait for other pics, if there are any.


It could well be a raindrop! Here's my scenario of events:

The photographer was clearly taking a shot of the impressive sun rays and not the object. Through a window, too, considering the height as indicated by the visible rooftop.

I suspect that the raindrop was only noticed once the photo was on the computer monitor. It looked odd and kind of impressive so a big ufo story was invented around it.

Other photos which had sky in them were then hastily extracted from the archives (seasonal change not spotted) and a similar ufo was added via photoshop.

Exif data on the two old photos was then edited to match the date of the real raindrop picture.

Finally, three very divergent 'witness' statements were created and the stories and pictures dispersed to the ufo community.



posted on Jul, 7 2007 @ 02:59 PM
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TkainZero I think you're right about the EXIF data but I meant in the account he wrote on the other site next to the pic. He's written it on there as Americans do and I'd assumed he was a Brit. Someone from the UK wouldn't write it like that (but there again who's to say he isn't an American living in the UK??!) Might just be me being picky lol




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