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Originally posted by masterp
Well, where is it? where are they?
"The future of the human race may be dramatically uplifted by the large-scale,
commercial development of this invention."
"If the manner in which Joseph Newman conducted his experiments
and the results were made known to the industrial or engineering community
then, in my opinion, several companies and/or individuals possess the expertise and capabilities
to construct the hardware required to fully exploit the apparent capability of his new concepts."
"You have opened an area in Astrophysics which may revolutionize
the magnetic energy problems which is now the most paramount problem
in future energy and space travel. I do believe with proper research
For over 20 years Joe Newman (born, Joseph Westly Rogers) has been promising to demonstrate a device that produces more energy than it consumes. Many people have contributed time, materials and money to try to make this happen and many have concluded that Newman is dishonorable, incompetent or just plain nuts.
Joe has rented out whole stadiums to demonstrate claims of over unity. Joe claims there is a way with magnets, wheels and wire to turn parts of copper atoms directly into energy. Joe got national attention in the early 80's when he had a number of backers trying to get the patent office to grant him a patent for a big heavy machine he said would make excess energy seemingly out of thin air. The main complaint people had was that Joe would demonstrate a device that both had input power (often batteries) and produced output power. Joe has claimed that over 30 scientists and engineers have signed excess power affidavits - some have since recanted.
I offer a $10,000 prize for proof of Free Energy. But when I called up Joe to try to set up a time where he could try to win my money, he just cursed me out and threatened to physically assault me. Joe who is last known to be in Arizona is only one of many people who have claimed to have Free Energy Machines. Many people who have bought his $80 book, have tried to follow the instructions to make their own over unity machines - and failed after years of effort. Joe has run for president, claimed to contact UFOs and runs a radio show where he talks about God giving him messages and much patriot style rhetoric. He also operates much the same as Dennis Lee.
Originally posted by dave420
reply to post by Schmidt1989
Free energy is always a lie. FYI. Energy has to come from somewhere.
Originally posted by spookjr
reply to post by Anonymous ATS
I am surprised that you did not ask for my credit card number.
[edit on 14-8-2008 by spookjr]
Originally posted by masterp
Originally posted by Freezer
The motive of politicians is money.
Perhaps, but writing yourself in history books is also a motive, as history proves.
Yeah, so is staying a politician, but more importantly, so is staying alive. (and your family staying alive too)
You really think they would just let a free energy device come into production? Not the politicians, but the big bankers, oil companies, battery companies, energy companies.
I don't see anyone stopping Steorn or Searl or 100s of others claiming free energy.
No, but then they do not have a device working worldwide yet either.
Also, a major consideration that wasn't a factor before is of course, the internet. Without it, who is going to hear about your latest device? The press? The newsmedia? No chance! (unless to ridicule it -note piss taking smirk on presenters faces, whenever ETs, UFOs, Alternative energy etc etc)
Magnets would be a great source of energy if it could be harnessed as Steorn has claimed. Magnets last hundreds of years which is more than any of us will live.
Reality says though that magnets do not work the way Searl says. There is just no way to construct an 'infinite' magnetic drive.
Please explain. These are not your off the shelf magnets you know (well, you should if you've read up) These are highly specialised, amalgams. They are a combination of materials with very tight tollerances. 'Magnets' in the normal sense, they are not.
And what is 'reality'?
They also can be easily remagnetized.
Yeah, and with what energy?
So, we have a generator, containing highly specialised composite 'magnets', running for around 200 -300 (even 400) years, producing (accessing energy from ZPE field) energy. Then they degrade.
Based on the above, do you think that remagnetising the components, would 'cost' more than what it would produce over centuries, even decades, even days?! Come on..
Free energy? The classification is irrelevant. I think there are many free energy devices which have been invented and have been surpressed.
No free energy devices have ever been constructed or suppressed. Don't believe every nutty conspiracist out there.
So you are nutty are you? You are on a forum, on a website which is specifically orientated towards conspiracies. You really ought to think twice about 'throwing stones in glass houses mate!
And you have absolute knowledge and proof that supression hasn't happened? History is litterred with examples of people being 'silenced' by whatever means, and not all in the alternative energy field either.
We are humans, 'they' are humans, what more proof do you need?!
No scientist have debunked Joe Newmans machine.
I do not see him suppressed or anything. What happened? is he a hoaxer?
He's still trying to get a patent 30 years later poor guy. Go look through the many patents online which describe ways to harness energy from earth.
Patents don't mean anything, especially in the US.
I agree. Patents are a useless, pathetic pandering to the powers that be. Asking 'permission' for official recognition, is both a waste of time and a pathetic 'cap in hand' exercise to the tosspots who think their # smells of roses. Open source is the 21st century, mature way to highlight your work.
Its not free energy we are after, its the available energy all around us.
But most, if not all, free energy investors claim overunity...for example, Newman claims 1000% efficiency. That's free energy.
Mate, nobbling your electricity or gas meter is 'free energy FFS.
The energy is NOT free! It does not 'just appear' from nothing. It is being extracted, by unconventional means from the all pervading energy field, once thought of as 'the ether', now almost universally referred to as the Zero point energy field. (or quantum energy field)
There's not even a debate anymore that the energy around us exist, its finding a medium or method to transfer it into useable current. If tesla could do it 100 years ago we can too.
Tesla did many things, but he did not invent a free energy machine. In the conspiracy turmoil, the truth about Tesla has been greatly twisted.
Oh? How so...do elaborate please. Of course, i want concrete proof of you assertion. (if it's good for the goose and all that!)