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What is the agenda of Illuminati group?

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posted on Jul, 5 2007 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by Hellmutt
Nobody would post it (if they knew). And if they did post any secrets, the Illuminati would know about it right away. You won't find the true answers with Google. They control the internet. I think you got a better chance catching Nessie or Bigfoot...


Hmmm that does put a crimp in research...

So errr how does one sign up?
There must be a recruiting office at some level.

Now on the other hand, this brings up an interesting thought... If THEY control the internet... and have NOT shut down ATS and other conspiracy sites... does that mean all the stuff we "expose" and talk about is of no significance to THEM so they just leave it alone?

I mean I am pretty sure THEY have bases on the moon and have a plan to build an Ark or other means to get the elite to Mars before all hell breaks loose on Earth... and I have been digging up documents that support this... yet no knock on the door...

Surely if they had that much control they would have used it... either that or we are all wrong and they are laughing at us... maybe even feeding us stuff to keep us going


Their Agenda?

Wipe out 80% of mankind... control of Space, the Moon and Mars




posted on Jul, 5 2007 @ 01:19 PM
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The bottom line agenda of the Illuminati is worldwide control of Money, Religion and Politics/Government, this gives them total control of the People, Production, Natural Resources and all of it.



posted on Jul, 5 2007 @ 11:15 PM
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My view is that there is no such thing as Illuminati.

There is no agenda.

There are however hidden agendas and secretive elite groups.

And I see them everyday in front of my TV.

Government. Business. Lobby groups.

Some confused people confused the above groups with NWO, Illuminati etc.

Instead of Bush/Carlyle group, it became Bush/Skulls and Bones group.

So, let it be, let them be confused.


USA's invasion of Iraq is classic.

PNAC group, neo-con influence, USA's hidden agenda, using mainstream media to spread lies and propaganda, hoodwink public.


en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...


Happy hunting for your Illuminati!

Go and blindly believe in Illuminati propaganda.

Believe what propagandists say.

I mean, we have no choice but to trust the Illuminati propagandists right?

They know the truth.



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[edit on 5-7-2007 by Ickey]



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 12:37 AM
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First off, here is an awesome link about the Illuminati.

en.wikipedia.org...

The way that I see it is that there are two main Illuminati Groups.

The first is a group that actually are trying to be "enlightened" through the ways of science. This group was made after oppression from the Christians views on science. It is said that even Sir Issac Newton was an Illuminatist. But, the Illuminati movement had a few extremists in it.

The other part of the Illuminati was created by those extremists. They anted to control the world, for fear of that their scientific beliefs would be overthrown by religion. This would mean somehow getting into the backbone of the media, the money system, the religions, transportation, everything. Just to let you know, this group of the Illuminati is the one that is threating world peace. Right now. As we speak.

So, basically the agenda of the scientific group is to be scientifically enlightened.

The agenda of the other Illuminati group is basically the NWO or New World Order.

Oh, and by the way, one of the very seal of the NWO Illuminati is etched into our culture, just an example of what they are into.

The Eye in the top of the pyramid, above the rest of the pyramid.



Note the...illumination coming from the top part of the pyramid with the eye. This would just about prove the Illuminati's actions to control the world.
They have put our seals in our culture without us knowing about it. They really aren't trying to have the world, they already have it. They are on both sides of the chess board, moving each piece into submission. They have even had control over our country since 1876, the very century of the starting of the Bavarian Illuminati (note the wikipedia link and the date on the base of the pyramid on the dollar bill picture)

But it goes even deeper. For those of you who do not know any Latin, or have ever had this told to them, this is completely new (I know a little Latin, but I had to look up the translation).

Look back at the picture. Note the Latin text. Know the translation? That's one thing that they didn't tell you in school, or never will.

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Novus= New

Ordo= Order

Seclorum= Material World.

New Material World Order, or New World Order as we call it today. And finding that on a banner below the Illuminati picture would answer your question to if the Illuminati is the NWO or not. It's for you to decide, but the proof is right in front of you. You just have to be "illuminated" yourself, and not just think outside of the box, but think above the box; then you will see what the Illuminati truly is.



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 12:46 AM
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Novus Ordo Seclorum (Latin for "New Order of the Ages") appears on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, first designed in 1782 and printed on the back of the American dollar bill since 1935. The phrase also appears on the coat of arms of the Yale School of Management, Yale University's business school.

The phrase is often mistranslated as "New World Order," but the Latin for that phrase would be Novus Ordo Mundi.


en.wikipedia.org...

Some Illuminati, NWO propagandist like to mistranslated Novus Ordo Seclorum to fit in with their stupid propaganda.

I find that dishonest and sloppy.

And that they have to use these tricks shows that their propaganda is worthless.

Most people just blindly believe without checking facts.


[edit on 6-7-2007 by Ickey]



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 01:25 AM
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To sum in up in a nutshell:

Those who insist on behaving like irrational animals, will be treated like irrational animals. Those who strive to become independant, autonomous civilized social beings shall be treated as such themselves.

Simple.

There have always been leaders, followers and those who would exploit the uneducated and mindless masses - nothing new here, just a new label for those who understand and have the power to influence.



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 01:25 AM
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edit : double post

sorry...

[edit on 6-7-2007 by GENERAL EYES]



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 01:29 AM
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The thing I hate about Illuminati and NWO propaganda is that it misdirects attention away from real issues and real culprits.

It also wastes a lot, a lot of time.



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 01:40 AM
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Ickey - I completely concur.

Most on here know I'm a self professed Illuminist, and it nausates me to no end the amount of propaganda and disinfo that floods the collective conciousness these days.

In fact, if one looks beyond the surface and actually applies some independant thought into the matter and places themselves in the postion of a world leader having to keep the undereducated masses at bay and occupied with various flights of fancy (they can be ever so demanding don't you know) most would realize that the entire conspiracy relating to the subjugation of these said masses is indeed only for those of them who can't (or won't) learn for themselves, control their base desires and evolve into constructive and contibuting members of this planet.

Indeed, the very people who spout anti-Illuminati propaganda stike me as a very dangerous sort - an irrational, paranoid who lacks faith not only in themselves and their own power and responsibility, but also others.

Antisocials, every one of them.

With great power comes great responsibility, and sadly - there are far too many who are eager to point the finger and shift the blame as opposed to standing up and being held accountable for their own actions and shortcomings.

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posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 02:02 AM
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That is very true.

We don't have to follow anyone.

We don't have to follow the mainstream media.

There is also no need to follow Illuminati/NWO propagandists.

Just follow yourself.

It's your life.

Why follow other people's propaganda?

My propaganda is to think for yourself.

Don't follow.

Think yourself.

First step to effective action is effective thinking and clarity of thought.

And that requires some discipline.

academic.bowdoin.edu...

[edit on 6-7-2007 by Ickey]



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 02:15 AM
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ehhh wheres your facts that they do not plan this,how do you deny the words coming from the mouths of our own presidents?Anser that without redirection of what a loser and a loner i must be because i have a different oppinion.....

en.wikipedia.org...
www.sourcewatch.org...
www.newamericancentury.org...

and for you two sheeple slandering anyone who dares believe anything thats not on fox or cnn

here ya gowww.youtube.com...
plz dont skirt around the questions give me direct answers or your admitting your own ignorance.

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posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by Ickey
Novus Ordo Seclorum (Latin for "New Order of the Ages") appears on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, first designed in 1782 and printed on the back of the American dollar bill since 1935.


LOL yup that seal was designed by Masonic Rosicrucians who created this country in the "New World" and brought "Order"

Those people were great visionaries and created a dream, and if anyone ever was an Illuminated One it would be that group



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posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 03:35 AM
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plz dont skirt around the questions give me direct answers or your admitting your own ignorance.

What argument are you trying to make silo?

You mentioned the PNAC group's influence on USA policies.

This means that you have been following my advice on lobby group's influence.

That's what lobby groups do.

They try to influence government policy.

What's up with this video:
www.youtube.com...

What's is there in that video that you find odd?

I don't understand.

[edit on 6-7-2007 by Ickey]



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 03:37 AM
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They = NWO

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posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 03:41 AM
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Originally posted by Project_Silo
They = NWO


Who is "they" and what "NWO"?



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 03:52 AM
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They try to influence government policy.


[edit on 6-7-2007 by Ickey]



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 03:57 AM
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Lobby groups is NWO?

Why?


What is your definition of "NWO"?

You didn't make it clear.

What argument are you trying to make?

It's all very confusing.

[edit on 6-7-2007 by Ickey]



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 04:07 AM
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I don't know much, but I know one thing the Illuminati and the Freemasons already have control of so much in our society. How could they want or need more? I actually think they maybe leading the masses into a state of enlightenment, so that we can move forward as a Type 1 civilization all working together for the greater good of everyone.

I think they are smart enough to know that taking to much control would have repercussions and wouldn't last long. There would be a mass blow back of their control and revolution worldwide that would take their power structure down. They can't control without the support of the "sheeple." I think they may take more control until people wake up and change the power structures rules, or just ignore them completely. There is only so much power and wealth that you can enjoy in this lifetime. They already have that. Why would they need or want more?

Well have to see I guess. One thing is I don't think the eye one the top of the pyramid is suppose to represent them having control, but the Supreme Being, or the Grand Architect of the Universe being the eye that watches the world. I think that it has been stated that when the "New World Order" commences the eye will be connected to the pyramid. The funny thing is while we move into being a Type 1 civilization money/currency will probably see mass deflation, maybe even to the point of being worthless.

Just some food for thought.

Here's an interesting interview with theoretical physicist Michio Kaku for some easily understandable background info on the movement of Earth to a type 1 civilization for those who haven't seen it:

vids.myspace.com...

Here's a great site, if you are interested in reading more on our possible movement as a people towards a new civilization structure and theoretical physics:

www.kurzweilai.net...

And for those who are so scared of a NWO and the Illuminati, always remember that no matter what happens the populace always has the upper hand against a possible handful of tyrants. Remember that "there is nothing to fear, but fear itself." I am not saying that the Illuminati are all completely good, but I do think they are quite smart enough to realize that total control never works. And propaganda is just one side of the story, not the whole truth.



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

So errr how does one sign up?
There must be a recruiting office at some level.

I believe there's a "don't ask" policy. You don't come to them. They'll come to you, ...if you're worthy.



posted on Jul, 6 2007 @ 06:06 AM
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Frailty good point,its very hard for the few to control the many.Thus being said though when about every media outlet is run by 7 poeple there is alot of room for controll.And greed knows no boundries,thus is why if someone robs a bank once and gets away rhey will do it again,and again untill caught.

I'm still trying to figure out what the benifets of one world goverment would be?i mean you have a good point,say they succeeded over night,heh,but what would be their reward?


Ya to have every person under your control,but really what would it matter,not like there would be wars because theres one country,I don't really see what they would benefit besides being able to own everything and control everyone but who really cares if there is no contender competing for your wealth and so on.

In other words who could they brag to?and money would not matter to them because they would own every industry.

Anyone have any suggestions? sorry if its off topic but i really have no idea ........



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